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    So am I one of those people who used to be a huge conservative and I did listen to Charlie years and years ago. I watched way too many of his little debates.

    But once you get out of the echo chambers and start questioning anything he said, you would be attacked instantly by the right.

    Charlies main thing was to take someone’s serious question, and focus on one little part he could exploit and drill them for it. It was a great way for his supporters to say “YEAHHHH GET EM!!!” While the person asking the question never got an actual answer and instead was laughed at and mocked.

    It was all propaganda and designed to separate people and he was a horrible person.

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    That’s how social media gives impression that there is more hard right people.

    Unfortunately it also amplifies the existing ones, because makes them think they are the majority.

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      The fact that anyone believes anything anyone says online anymore is ludicrous. Opinions were swayed by bots, that then pushed legitimate people over into an unrealistic ideology. Sure, there are REAL people saying this toxic shit, but it was all pushed over the edge by bots/bad actors.

      The danger comes when people think ANY of these “top comments” are what ‘the public really thinks’.

      We need a new net with no bots. with PRIVACY and no bots.

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      social media

      Hell, PBS news last night kicked off with coverage of Kirk’s memorial service, which they described as having a “massive” turnout. Interesting that they never used the word “massive” to describe the recent anti-MAGA protests.

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        Pbs has gotten bad lately. One of their correspondents just endorsed the lie about command and control from gazan hospitals, he saw it first hand. Then they allow some Unapologetic is real hack to come on and lie about what they are doing with no pushback. Then stuff like this. I do not know if I can even watch them anymore if they are going to just give up and run with the party line.

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          I sometimes describe the PBS News Hour as “Fox News aimed at old white liberals”. I’ve been trying to wean my parents (old white liberals) off of it, but they go all the way back to the days of The MacNeil/Lehrer report and they just can’t accept that it’s become something entirely different decades later. The sad thing is that watching it every night leaves them suicidally depressed but they can’t stop themselves.

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            Compared to the rest they were doing a decent job in many respects but it seems to me like they just gave up and surrendered any sort of journalistic Integrity just this last week. I understand they might have to bring out a pro-israel person, but not one pushing through such blatant fall cities with the interviewer nodding along and agreeing with everything they say. I got to find the name of that interviewer so I can let other people know how much of a piece of shit he is.

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            That’s how I would describe CNN.

            I haven’t watched to much this week, but the issues with Charlie Kirk have extended to every news platform. Earlier this year, they were pretty good about their reporting on Palestine which leads me to believe this is an issue with that particular host.

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    The spam detection works, though!

    (As intended - on the ones criticising these posts.)

  • As a lifelong chicken, I don’t know what to make of Colonel Sanders. I’ve since spent several factory-farm feeding sessions, watching his cooking lessons (FULL live-in-person-show), and have come away with the impression that we, chicken-kind, got him all wrong. The reactions from my species — have really made me question my entire existence.

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    What I really don’t understand is why are we still seeing copy-pasted messages from bots in 2025. We have LLMs now. We had for a couple of years. It’s not that hard to generate unique messages. You’d think (the people operating) these bots would use that?

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        Yes, but when Elon bought Twitter, he said adding a paid subscription was a way to verify accounts.

        We all knew it was bullshit, but we should still call them out on lying.

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      Reminder to everyone: you can monetize being a blue-check twitter user if you get enough followers and engagement.

      It’s not much, but in places like India and other countries, it’s more than enough to live on, and as a result there are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of shill accounts based in India and other countries, who just circulate each other, follow each other, retweet each other and recycle the same Grok talking points and hollow phrases all day, every day.

      Our entire political landscape is being propped up on the backs of people who do not know or care about what happens in the USA and are just shaving off as much as they can by riding along like the remoras that follow sharks.

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          Repeat right-wing bullshit all day and push nazi takes on midwest white women until you get retweeted enough that you make a couple bucks. Helps if you actually farm like, 60 accounts on burner phones, each doing the exact same thing.

          Helps more if like, a million of your friends do the same thing.

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              That’s my point in my original comment, that the rate of return for the effort is just enough to recruit an army of foreigners to influence our politics.

              I don’t have negative feelings towards people in India trying to survive by using any means necessary, I certainly get it, these are humans with lives and families and the opportunity is just dangled in front of them.

              But these are people who don’t have to live in the country they help tear down to ashes and rubble by supporting right-wing, fascist propaganda.

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    As a lifelong Democrat, I didn’t know what to make of Charlie Kirk. I’ve since spent several lunch breaks watching his debates (FULL videos) and have come away with the impression that we got him all wrong. The reaction from those on my side of the aisle have really made me Show more

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    Even though it’s true that the left has messaging problem, the right has an efficient propaganda machine well oiled by the monied interest.

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    This is genuinely depressing. This isn’t people getting their orders and posting thusly, this is one asshole with their bot accounts. Most of Social Media is malarkey, Dead Internet Theory will slowly become true as AI invades more and more spaces.

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      I would assume that the US understanding of corporate “speech” rights (per Citizens United) will at some point lead to a Supreme Court ruling that grants explicit personhood (including the right to political affiliation) to corporations and AI bots by extension.

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    Most of our social media is filtered through 5 American corporations, all of whom are intensely interested in AI.

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    As a lifelong Democrat who also enjoys breathing… oxygen and eating high fructose corn syrup just like all of you, I didn’t know what to make of Adolf Hitler. I’ve spent several lunch breaks watching his speeches (FULL videos) and have come away with the impression that we got him all wrong. The reaction from those on my side of the aisle have really made me rethink whether we’re on the right side of history.

    Well, I’m crossing the aisle—I just registered as a National Socialist.

    Anyone else? All of us normal and 100% human (what else would I be ha ha ha) Democrats are now going to vote for the Nazis, and so should the rest of you meatba… I mean fellow humans

    Edit: the em-dash in the original post that I copy-pasted makes me suspect this was written with an LLM

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      Wait, are they really claiming to be registering as actual Nazi’s now???

      For anyone that somehow doesn’t know, Nazi was originally an abbreviation for Nationalsozialist (German for National Socialist). Its kind of insane that these fake democrat twitter bots are claiming to be switching teams to the literal Nazi party, instead of republican/maga.

      Don’t read/make comments while half asleep kids, makes you look dumb.

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        lol no, I obviously edited it – it’s not like the original bots were oxygen enjoyers either.

        Well, as far as we know.

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          Guess I was not awake enough to catch the other edits - no one else posted the full message and I assumed you did.

          I don’t use shitter, and its not worth it to pull up an alternate frontend just to see what shitty bots post on it.