So now Ukrainian troops are spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda, huh?
How many times does Zelensky need to repeat that there is no encirclement, just an orderly regrouping to better positions after all the goals of the Kursk operation were reached?

I know, right? Obviously they are just retreating to better positions! And even if not, Zelensky said that all the goals of Kursk operation were reached, so Ukraine is winning as usual!

It’s typical of the Ukrainian propagandists, smear the messenger and not answer relevant questions posed.

Oh believe me, I am familiar with that, more so than anybody else :(

You didn’t answer the question, I am not sure how is your reply relevant at all tbh

What does the word propaganda, mean to you? Information that you don’t agree with?

Well, it’s definitely the case for me and for some of my friends/family.
I left Ukraine “legally” (it was before the war, when it was still possible to leave “legally” without paying huge bribes), but some of people I know had to escape “illegally” (some went to the Russia-controlled territories, some escaped through mountains/rivers to Moldova, some were caught…).
Zelensky has already tried to persuade European leaders to deport us, but so far he failed. Still, every once in a while news appear (usually from Baltics/Poland, but sometimes from other countries aa well) about some politician wanting to deport us, so this is quite scary shit.

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Looks like brave Ukrainian soldiers will soon liberate Kursk from the illegal invaders!

As a Ukrainian living abroad, I absolutely support forcibly deporting every Ukrainian who supports Zelensky’s regime back to Ukraine! That shit would be extremely hilarious :)

I would say that 100% of people who should be able to pass can pass.

Wow, your every comment is better than the previous one.

You would be the person saying “I would say that 100% of people who should be free are free” just a small time ago in USA…

You are the best example of why liberals are the most anti-liberty and pro-discrimination people out there.

USA had slavery because USA had slaves.

Ukraine has open borders because anyone can pass except Ukrainian men if military age.

I don’t even know how to comment that. Liberals are fucked up animals.

Ukraine does have open borders. One exception for military ages males doesn’t undo it.

USA never had any slavery. One exception for black folks doesn’t undo it.

Fuck, that’s pure genius.

Thanks 😘

Lol, got reported for “bad-faith post”, that’s a new one, usually it’s Russian propaganda or disinformation, a real pity that’s not the case here… :(

@moe93@lemmy.ml feel free to clarify why is it bad faith? :)
I posted news totally debunking the claim of those fucking tankies about Zelensky being a dictator, isn’t it a good thing? I am on the good side now, fighting Russian disinformation campaign, in the name of the free world!

The best news in the last few months. Trump <3

Exactly! It’s so ridiculous that it’s funny. Literally everything he said is so easily debunked, and yet some liberals are not able to do even that.

You, I, journalists, etc. can still come and go.

No, I can’t. I am a “man of military age”. So if I come back to Ukraine I will be prisoner there, along with millions of people there.

I usually post “Russian propaganda”, but today Ukrainian propaganda got so fucking ridiculous that I want to post it, I hope you don’t mind :)

Ukraine DOES NOT have open borders, I don’t think even the most liberal sources will deny that, . But here are several links (first articles from the search results) just in case:
https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukrainian-men-try-to-get-around-the-ban-to-leave-the-country/a-62529639
https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukrainian-men-try-to-get-around-the-ban-to-leave-the-country/a-62529639

Ukraine DOES NOT have " competitive political space", Zelensky banned opposing political parties. Again even liberal medias do not deny that, they merely justify it “bbbbut those are the bad ones!”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/3/21/why-did-ukraine-suspend-11-pro-russia-parties
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-law-bans-pro-russia-parties-zelenskiy-signs/31849737.html

Ukraine DOES NOT have “competitive information space”, Zelensky tries his best to silence any opposition.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/18/world/europe/ukraine-press-freedom.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/3795160-zelensky-signs-controversial-law-expanding-government-power-to-regulate-media/

And don’t get me started on the elections… Which are of course totally unnecessary because Zelensky is not a dictator and everybody supports him anyway…

You didn’t answer my question.

I have a theoretical question, just to better understand your logic, if you don’t mind.

If I get into power - I will make it legal to hunt down and murder liberals (that’s basically what liberals support happening under Zelensky’s regime to me, so I think it’s absolutely fair). Obviously it wouldn’t be considered murder under my new law (like you don’t consider kidnapping a kidnapping), but there would a term for it, like “making word a better place” (a la “arresting draft dodgers”) or something like this.

Now, someone “makes world a better place” to your friends/family/etc. (we assume they are liberals). Will you say that what happened was “world was made a better place”, or that those people were murdered?

If your answer is not “the world was made a better place” - why? How is this situation different from the kidnapping not being kidnapping because there is a law that says it’s not?

he should just give everything to the Russian oligarchy, right?

He should not confine, terrorize and kidnap innocent people.

no one believes you

But I didn’t say anything that needs believing, all of that are extremely well documented facts.