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  • But that is my exact point, the only thing op is saying is that hate speech (along other edge cases) is protected by free speech. Which is true and doesn’t mean op agrees with it.

    It could be interpreted as “you can’t touch me, I am protected by free speech”, or “remember that some seemingly innocent laws also protect some very douchy behaviors”. Which one YOU decide to interpret it is on you.

    Either way, there is an interesting conversation to be had around the law, who is it there to protect, why, and what the limits should be. But instead that comment decided to say that “it doesn’t force the rest to agree with you” and claim that it makes op a racist. Just an irrelevant “feel good” argument and an ad hominem attack to shut down a conversation on a more than ever important subject.


  • What you interpret as me changing sides is just me agreeing with the relevant arguments you make.

    You are the only one assuming my thoughts here. All I am saying since the beginning is that your argument doesn’t contradict op’s meme. It is not a false statement, I never said as such, it simply doesn’t contradict it, and using it to imply that op is racist is the issue at hand.

    Freedom of speech does protect hate speech, that’s an issue with it, and it merits to be discussed. Every right comes with drawbacks, and closing the discution in favor of circlejerking is never a good idea.

    On that note I’m getting tired of this discussion too, so I’ll stop there. Once again, I do not have a grudge against you or your ideas, I just hate seeing falacious arguments beeing aplauded all the time, but I guess that’s unavoidable on social medias, no matter which. Have a nice day, and ty for this conversation.


  • I have not backtracked on anything… My very first comment explicitly says that “It protects you against SOME consequences (then I proceed to list some as an example)”, which obviously implies that some others aren’t protected by it… I also never mentionned who would be enforcing it…

    I didn’t care which consequences you thought about, and still don’t. It’s not what my comments are about. My issue with your comment is you saying that freedom of speech doesn’t protect hate speech because it doesn’t give you freedom from ALL consequences. But freedom of speech gives the same protection to hate speech as any other form of speech.

    I would have the same to say if that comment was : " -Freedom of speech includes talking about minorities oppression -Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consequences you woke bastard " Or any other topic.

    I think I would agree with you on a lot of ideas, but using fallacious arguments is never helpfull.


  • In a way… I admit that ALL types of free speech when used can have SOME consequences.

    The issue I have with your original statement is that you put all consequences in the same basket… With that logic you can say that freedom to vote does not mean freedom from consequences, therefore you can’t complain that I try to indimidate anyone if front of the booth



  • Except you are free from some consequences, that’s exactly why there are laws in place, to delimit what you can do without retaliation, and what you cannot.

    The freedom of speech includes retaliayion from the government, but is not limited to it.

    These other laws you mention are there to limit the scope of freedom of speech, because it would otherwise explicitly allow it…




  • I don’t see what you find cringy or entitled from this open letter, they explain the problems they encounter while working on mods and explain how Larian can help with that. This is the best way to handle such a request as a group.

    And no, they aren’t entitled to their demands, but that doesn’t mean that those demands aren’t admissible. While they do not own the game itself, they do contribute to it’s success and the studio will benefit from helping them.

    Also, it seems like you view modding as just some small tweaks for the fun of it (which might be the case for bg3, but from the letter it doesn’t seem so), but some game mods can become fairly huge, both in work size and popularity. While I don’t know much about the bg3 scene, I remember quite a few minecraft modders who received death threats because they “took too long” to update their mods to the latest version. There’s a real pressure behind that work, you can’t just brush it off because “they don’t own the game”







  • Je répond à un commentaire qui essaye d’expliquer que “tous les hommes” ne signifie pas “l’intégralité des hommes”, et s’en sert pour justifier que tous les hommes sont des violeurs.

    Le commentaire que tu me cite explique que lorsqu’on parle de “tous les hommes” on parle bien de l’intégralité d’entre eux, et précise bien que cela ne signifie pas “tous violeurs”. Ce qui va, tout comme moi, à l’encontre du premier commentaire.

    Ensuite tu me donne une image dont la première bulle dit “L’écrasante majorité des violeurs sont des hommes”, ce qui est exactement la tournure de phrase que je suggère d’utiliser dans mon premier commentaire au travers de mon allégorie. Encore une fois, je ne sais pas pourquoi tu as décidé que je devais absolument avoir une opinion contraire à la tienne…

    Je ne sais d’ailleurs pas trop ce que ce récapitulatif du fil vient faire là, suis-je sensé m’y reconnaitre? Ou s’agit it d’une simple touche d’humour placée là sans raison? Je suis confus.

    Tu m’attribue des opinions qui ne sont pas les miennes, que ce soit en utilisant des réponses à côté de mes propos ou en spéculant sur ma personne via mon historique de commentaire. Il est difficile de ne pas y voir quelque chose un tant soit peu personel…


  • Effectivement je suis un utilisateur occasionel, je me sert principalement de lemmy comme fil d’actualité, et je vais de temps en temps lire les commentaires quand certains posts piquent ma curiosité. J’ai effectivement choisi de venir m’exprimer pour une fois, mais promis la prochaine fois je ferais attention à ce que ce soit sur un sujet plus important comme la technologie, l’environnement, ou l’actualité internationale (ou moins important peut être, je ne sais pas ce que tu me reproche en fait…)

    Je ne vois pas pourquoi mon commentaire de fais tant réagir par ailleurs. Je n’ai jamais exprimé un avis contraire au tient. Je suis juste tombé au fil de ma lecture sur un commentaire qui tente une analyse semantique non seulement factuellement fausse (et qui n’arrivera au mieux qu’a prêcher un convaincu) mais que je trouve en plus défavorable au propos général, puisque cette généralisation ne met aucunement en avant les éléments importants.



  • I don’t know about this specific building, so this is just speculation, but it looks like an old public building, something like a school, city hall, could even be a market or public bathroom. My guess is those door are new, and a way to close an otherwise open entry to a courtyard.



  • The thing is, as some other people have pointed out, the guy is not a native english speaker, and many latin based languages simply don’t have any gender neutral pronoun and make use of the neutral masculine instead. Many of these languages have seen some people propose new ways to handle pronouns to change that recently, most of which are somewhat controversial. It’s easy for a native speaker of those languages to assume the same is true in english (especially since the use of “he” as a generic neutral is, as far as I can tell, still valid, although clearly out of fashion). Once you take all of that into account, the proposed change can easily be viewed as someone trying to simply push one of those controversial ideas instead of a widely accepted generic masculine, which would clearly fall into politics in the sense of “real world beliefs and social issues irrelevant to the topic at hand”. The rest seems to simply be a pretty childish ego war between him and some mastodon users which could have been solved by either side taking 5 minutes to explain their point of view on this matter.

    Now, even without this context, from what I can tell, the issue at hand was a single instance of " he" used to describe a generic anonymous user in the dev VM… Seeing that as unprofessional because it addresses someone as male by default surely is a bit of a stretch.

    About that “no code for rivals”, I don’t think is as stupid as many mention. Right now when it comes to web browsers (at least ones with wide compatiblility and features), there’s only 2 choices : chromium-based and firefox. So someone trying to bring some fresh blood is welcome, and in order to avoid having the same issues as the chromium-based ones, you need to make sure you are not overly dependent of your competitor’s code. Granted, this is a pretty strict approach, but it doesn’t prevent them from using the same libraries and techs, it just means that any code written specifically for a different browser shouldn’t be copy/pasted.