You missed the best parts of his line. The full quote is:
I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary to me. It’ll happen to you!"
On the internet, nobody knows you’re not “it”
I still prefer nalgene bottles. They’re cheap, indestructible, dishwasher safe, and aren’t a pound of loud metal to carry around when empty.
But in their case, dishwasher safe means safe for the bottle, not for your endocrine system.
They’ve been BPA free since 2008… So… Plus I’ve heard they’re finding lead leaching into water from vacuum sealed metal bottles. Can’t win.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200218182202.htm
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/08/health/bottled-water-nanoplastics-study-wellness/index.html
BPA isn’t the only problem with plastic. It’s plastic itself that is the problem.
Gonna start only drinking from my hands
Switch to goat bladders.
- naturally produced
- reasonable capacity
- durable
- biodegradable
Can I use sheep instead? I can’t get as good goat out here
I mean, plastic is not the only thing you can make a bottle out of. Metal or glass could be appropriate options, perhaps.
Glass breaks, metal has the aforementioned lead problems. I shall create a water pouch from the bladder of a steer.
Glass is much better because it has no taste. I would expect people to care about that if they use it all day. How often do you break a glass bottle? That’s the thickness of glass you need.
My grandfather has a glass Gatorade bottle he still reuses. That’s the kind of shit I expect from today’s hipsters. Do they even retro bro?
It shouldn’t be that hard to figure out if there’s lead in a metal bottle I think, but I see your point for sure. It can be hard to find non-terrible stuff.
I’m a big fan of the single wall stuff. It works pretty well for water carrying at least. For hot and cold stuff you could always add a cozy. Certainly not as effective but no lead!
On the other hand, I dream of the day when I make my own wax lined leather bottle like the days of old
Can’t win.
Dat Glass
Heavy and fragile. Fine for around the house but a poor choice for throwing in a gym bag and should not be used near pools or other bodies of water where broken glass is an invisible hazard.
What’re the lids mad out of huh?
Death!
Still even if you store it sideways at all times, you’re still reducing plastic contact/leaching by what, 95%? Or more like 100% if you use a glass straw and store it upright.
Can you link anything for lead getting into the water? I’d be interested. Everything I’ve read about it (with respect to the Stanleys) says it’s virtually impossible to be in contact with any lead containing bit unless you’ve purposely damaged the bottom and are basically licking it. One of the quoted experts was says depending on where you are in the US, your tap water is a much more likely vector of lead exposure.
I can’t, I’ve heard it in passing, so very well might’ve just been some doomer bullshit or sensationalizing the facts. It seems that it’d be unnecessary for them to use lead at all in the creation of a drinking implement, but I’m no material scientist. I guess I’ll have to look into it more.
I still have a nalgene that was made in '97. the lid snapped, but their lifetime warranty really is lifetime, they sent me a new one free of charge when I reached out to them.
Mine rolled off a >100ft cliff once. I climbed down to retrieve it and it was still perfectly intact. Still using it to this day.
I was showing the guys at work in a warehouse how indestructible my nalgene was, I put it against a barrier drove a forklift against it. It just left a small dent when it popped back to shape. Still have that bottle.
Damn, that’s a quality shitpost. Well done
Thermos culture is weird/cringe. Everyone circle jerking their $100 water bottle, trying to outdue each other.
We get it you drink water.
I don’t get it. Why is it weird?
I purchased a sigg stainless steel for less than 20$. If has served me for 4 years, full of dents on the bottom, and still going strong.
The weird obsession with Stanley cups and people buying 1 for each outfit they have. Like people having fucking 30 of the damn things. Or the literal riots and mobs for the pink Starbucks Stanley cups. Capitalism makes us all stupid.
Ahhh, I get it. Yes, that is indeed very stupid. Idiot trends…
I’m with you, I don’t get the draw - I’m not a fan of the clutter it would cause but whatever floats their boat, it’s not sinking mine :P.
I feel like it’s the same as collecting shoes or purses - fashion/collecting just of something else. The abe meme is spot on.
So? I have multiple for sizes depending on if I’m drinking coffee or water or if I’m on the go or if I can’t find filtered or if I need back up water on a long trip. So that’s all it takes to make a person mad? Then I think outrage over something dumb makes people stupid.
Mine’s < $10 and going on for that last 10 years. These things are well made and worth keeping at least one. Multiple dents seem to have made it a little less efficient though (Vacuum insulated).
I don’t really get what this Stanley trend is, can someone explain it to me? I don’t think I interact with the portions of the net where a bottle trend would spread.
People paying way too much money for absurdly large cups because “influencers” told them to.
Don’t get me wrong. If someone wants one of those things, they can go right ahead. Not my business. But, every day I watch my 15 year old get out of the car and carry one of those things into school with her and all I can think is that it seems like a glass of water that markets inconvenience as a feature.
I’ve got one, but I’ve had it for years and years. It was a gift from my kids. I think for Father’s Day.
It’s awesome. I just use it for water. Load ice and water, carry it through the house. Keep drinking water. If I wake in the night feeling thirsty, there’s ice water right there. In the morning when I need to take meds, I’ve got ice water. Nice secure lid, so if my clumsy self knocks it over, it isn’t a disaster.
I’ve got gout, so one of the easiest things I can do to avoid pain is to drink a metric shit-ton of water every day. I think it ended up being a much better gift than my kids thought it would be.
Of course, like I said, I’ve had mine long before any influencer was talking about them.
Wife has one of the giant Frank Green waterbottles. Goes through 3 or 4 of them a day at work and bedside.
Beats the hell out if the three giant energy drinks she used to have.
If it’s the ones pictures above, they’re actually really decent at keeping things cold/hot, not overpriced at all at their performance. This guy I follow does a lot of weird shot for shot tests and tumblers were one of them.
Totally not weird. Just comparison reviews.
I thought this was a good explanation https://youtu.be/vrUWQ56GeyU
But the gist is that it was some very clever marketing.
Speaking of clever marketing… here’s that video with the tracking (back to your Google account) removed. (Piped mirror)
Much appreciated.
😎
They actually do perform the best in tests
In tests of what exactly? Drinkability? Containing liquids?
They’re popular because some lady’s car caught fire and her Stanley cup survived virtually unscathed and it still had ice in it while the car was completely destroyed.
Then the company saw that her video was viral and bought her a new car.
I feel like that warrants their popularity right now.
I personally prefer Hydroflask because it’s easier to carry around and I don’t care for a straw or side handle. But I see no reason to hate on these.
The funny thing about that is that it could’ve been any properly made thermal cup in that place and results would be pretty similar. So it was pure luck that Stanley not some other brand got such big ad
I love my Nalgene; it’s survived countless blckpacking trips and accepts a variety of water filtration systems.
But it sucks day-to-day in a domestic situation. The screw cap is inconvenient, there’s literally zero insulation, and I’ve knocked it over in the middle of the night while reaching ior a drink of water mutiple times, dumping a liter of water oveg my nightstand, books, and carpet.
So at home I’m using a Coleman with a self-sealing top. Insulation isn’t spectacular, but I can take a quick sip of water fron any position and just drop it whereveg with no concern for spillage. I wouln’t take it backpacking, though.
The right tool for the job.
That car fire was after stanley cups were already huge
I wont buy anything reusable that has valves or straws… Because I’ve taken a microbiology class.
Can’t you just put the bottles in the dishwasher?
I won’t really worry about it until there is evidence that there is anything to really worry about.
The water never really gets up the straw properly and I’m not about to crack out a bottle brush and do it by hand. A nalgene will hold 1.5 litres and is hygienic.
Enjoying those endocrine suppressors? You definitely want aluminum, but Stanley isn’t the only way to do that. My wife got a pretty good Yeti with a pretty nice drinking spout, I think it’s the magdock?
Either way, stop drinking out of plastic.
I only carry water with me very rarely. like only when I go on long hikes. Even then, the spring water on those hikes is pretty good. I probably use a drinking bottle less than once a month.
Besides aluminium leads to oxidative stress. There’s a reason you don’t see aluminium cookware in the shops.
I had a little silver glass handed down as a child. Used it only for water. Don’t think that kind of thing can be afforded nowadays.
What’s the problem with
Ag?
You can clean cups with straws on the regular with antibacterial denture cleaning tablets
Nah, straws suck anyway
- You can buy an isolated bottle without straws.
- Insulated bottles are very nice because they isolate the water.
- The potential bacteria obviously doesn’t really matter much anyways.
- You can buy an isolated bottle without straws.
- Insulated bottles are very nice because they isolate the water.
Now I don’t know what to think!
I have a steel thermos for keeping my coffee hot, but I don’t see it being necessary to keep things cold. I usually only take water if I’m going somewhere without access to tap water or clean streams.
Cold water is much nicer to drink and IMO much better than coffee.
I live in the Arctic. The water is always pristine and cold.
I live further north than most but not that close to the Arctic Circle (around 7-8 degrees further south), but it’s not like I have that cold inside, we insolate our homes. If you live in the ice hotel I guess you don’t need an isolated bottle (As long as you don’t expose it to negative for too long). IMO a bottle is just really convenient compared to a glass of water which is very limited in capacity.
The vast majority of humanity lives very far away from the Arctic. The Arctic is one of the most desolate places on earth. Only around 4 million or 0,05376% of humanity live above the Arctic circle.
I have a steel thermos for keeping my coffee hot, but I don’t see it being necessary to keep things cold. I usually only take water if I’m going somewhere without access to tap water or clean streams.
Nalgene bottles were pure BPA, stainless and vacuum insulation are huge upgrades.
Technically, the Nalgene in the picture is the revised Tritan BPA-free design. But your point still stands. BPA or not, the less plastic touches my food and drink, the better.
Tritan plastics are used in labratory environments, I feel like we would have heard something if it was leeching anything. The high usage rate in those environments are what gives me faith in the product.
Are they single use or multi-use in the lab?
Nalgene has been BPA free since 2008, don’t hate on them!
Additionally, the minimal materials and manufacturing process are more environmentally friendly than metal vacuum seal bottles.
Vacuum seal bottles use a lead plug in the bottom, not so healthy when things go wrong with them.
Lead in vacuum seal bottles is avoidable, if it’s something you’re worried about it’s not hard to get lead free. I also highly doubt anything plastic is better for the environment in the long term, given that no plastic is going to last without degradation for that many years compared to something made of metal. And once that plastic does degrade it’s going straight into a landfill or the environment with all the other microplastics. Maybe optimistically it could be recycled once or twice, but beyond that you get diminishing returns and it’s trash again.
They might technically edge out metal production on one or two measurements, like power used (since you don’t have to smelt plastic), but as a society we have to stop pretending the plastic we use isn’t going to degrade. Plastic is temporary, then it turns into brittle, environmentally poisoning trash. There’s not a good reason to use it for something that can be easily replaced by metal.
Yeti didn’t even make the meme.
Or Hydro flasks. Those were a thing a few years ago.
Consume!
I wonder what the hot must-have plastic junk will be next year.
I dunno, the insulated water cup I use is made of metal. A lot of them are.
I wonder what hot must-have mass produced junk marketers will convince people is hot next year.
Still got my half gal, use it every day. Best bottle I ever owned.
sipping from my 946ml that i paid way too much for
Swell too.
Just saw one at goodwill today.
It’s true though. It WILL happen to you. I’ve been around long enough to see the full cycle over and over. In the 60s when I was kid, everyone was with “it,” now we’re all old f@rts who think those very same 60s values are weird and scary - peace? love? wokefulness? IT’S too horrible to think about!
I think many millennials and zoomers recognize the hypocrisy of the boomers and the damage it’s done. I’m hopeful that we stand in stark contrast to those before us and refuse to falter in our ideals.
I’m a millennial, but what is the hypocrisy you speak of? The world leaders are all armed with nukes and the choice was to either be homeless hippies who can’t feed themselves or cogs in the capitalism machine. Unless everyone is ready to have the revolution right this second, the status quo will always prevail.
Here’s a few examples. Also, you can get a job without selling out entirely. Although, I agree that most people have to make compromises as they grow.
f@rts
You’re allowed to say fart on the internet. You’re even allowed to say fart in real life.
I just said f@rt in real life and now I have three weeks community service. Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
It’s harder to say with the “@” symbol in it. And even harder to do it. WELL - on a side note, it’s weird how in American magazines they print the word “f*ck” but in magazines from other countries, they just print the word “fuck.” Like, here in America we’re so fragile we can’t handle seeing the actual word, and might be fooled into thinking maybe they were just trying to say something else.
See? I knew I was out of touch with what “it” is.
Kleen kanteen gang rise up!
I keep meaning to get one of those but I have a metal insulated water bottle I already use and is in fine condition. I can’t justify buying a new bottle to brag about how good it is when the whole point is I have one that works for me already and save me throwing away more… One day maybe but I fear I missed that train for my slightly worse bottle that will last my full lifetime already anyways.
The quiet true choice
Me drinking out of my reused aquafina bottle - “Mmm microplastics” 🤤
Are those Stanley cups, like, the Stanley brand that’s been around forever or another Stanley?
The same Stanley. They still sell those giant green thermoses our fathers and grandfathers used to take half a gallon of stale coffee to the coal mine or steel mill.
Shit, I still use one of those. Keeps coffee hot and secure for the commute.
I still use the one my dad had back in the 80s. It’s my road trip thermos. It’s been beat to shit but it still works.
Wait, I’ve still got a few of those out in the garage I think
The same Stanley and these specific ones recently became insanely trendy.
Bruh you can see the “since 1913” right there in the meme
What people don’t talk enough about the cup trend is that people aren’t even drinking water out of them. The new thing is to gaslight yourself into thinking you’re drinking water by mixing high fructose corn syrup drink mix into their water. It’s chemically different but somehow people think they’re doing their bodies a favor by drinking soda 60oz at a time.
Where are people getting HFCS drink mixes? Are you talking about the sodastream type bottles of mix? I only ever see people with the artificially sweetened tiny squirt bottles of flavoring. Which, healthy or not is up for debate but they’ve gotta be better than 150% of your sugar for the day in liquid form from HFCS/soda (in whatever container).
People fill those Stanley cups with pop?
No, they use artificially sweetened syrups that have “0 calories” to make flavored and colored “water”. Some will violently defend that it is still water because there aren’t any calories. Even though they added all the flavors, colors, and sweeteners, just no carbonation. Basically flat coke zero but in tons of schizophrenic flavor name and neon color combos. It’s a weird world of cope.
Be thankful my comment is the only level of awareness you’ll be about this. Do not look into this deeper, there is nothing good to be found. Forget this and return to your life. This will be your only warning.
Ya know some people just don’t like drinking something “flavorless” 24/7…
While it may not be as “healthy” as drinking just water, it’s like 98-99% water, and as you said, it’s zero calories so it’s far better for you than soda and fruit juice which has a fuckload of sugar/HFCS in it.
It looks like HydroHomies is leaking…
An ancient secret: Tea.
Mericans be weird.
I like tea, but I can’t see myself drinking like a gallon of hot tea a day, cold brewed is generally bitter.
Imagine thinking you are superior because you said the word tea, as if tea isn’t a famously high profile drink in the United States.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_tea
Seriously as an American, I don’t know a single person who doesn’t drink some type of tea.
Y’all can keep downvoting, but iced tea and sweet tea are both hugely important cultural drinks in the United States, so implying that Americans haven’t heard of tea is just wrong.
Their point is *water is healthy because it doesn’t contain any additives". Then the Brit popped in with the Tea idea and they put far less sugar in their tea, if they put any in.
Us 'Muricans need ten pounds of sugar in everything in order for it to be palatable, so a Sweet Tea and store bought teas are loaded with sugar/HFCS.
Protip: Ice makes any water taste better
I’m pretty sure cold things just taste less. Keep that in mind when a beer is advertised as “best” when freezing cold.
But then you have to make ice all the time!
Okay. Drink your literal copium.
I mean, that’s hardly new. Crystal light and the like have been around for a good while.
i thought they were sugar-free water flavors
“sugar free water flavors” is just a nice way of saying “artificially sweetened juice”
I think Burt Kreischer is kinda hacky but this comes to mind often when I see huge water bottles:
They’re not even good cups…
They’re fine. Stanley has made perfectly decent, tough thermos products for a century. The green coffee thermos has been a staple for decades.
My biggest fear of this craze is that it’ll kill the company when the fad ends and their stock drops and they get bought out by Chinese conglomerate number 8762.
It’s already owned by HAVI, a privately owned Indian conglomerate.
I don’t know why anyone thinka these old American brands are still independent, or even American.
