• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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    3 days ago

    Okay, the pizza thing is apparently a pedo dogwhistle (which is part of why Qanon went nuts about the existence of pizza restaurants) but why is Bill Gates mpreg?

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      3 days ago

      “Cheese pizza” has been slang/a euphemism for child pornography (due to the initials being the same, “cp”) since at least 2010. I wouldn’t call it a dog whistle.

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        Maybe you know it as common fact for some reason but also

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics)

        It communicates a specific message to a specific group in a way meant to pass unnoticed to the larger public without further context. It’s literally a textbook example.

        Unless you want to argue that anyone talking about cheese pizza in public is obviously a pedo because it’s clearly the dominant and assumed meaning?

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          I’m just saying the term has been around for a while and felt more like a euphemism than a dog whistle to me in how people used it.

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            I mean, dog whistles are a kind of euphemism by definition, and I’ve literally never seen anyone but Epstein in his emails use cheese pizza to directly mean CP or victims.

            If you’re seeing it that much as a casual euphemism you really need to ask yourself some questions about the people saying it and why you’re hanging around them.

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              Literally the use of pizza imagery as code for pedo stuff was one of the central claims of the qanon pizza gate conspiracy. Seems like other than it not being in the basement of a pizza place with no basement they had most of it right, strangely enough.

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                I’d have to go back and look at the pizza gate stuff from that time. Because I also remember it wasn’t just a conspiracy about child sex slaves, they also believed the elites were feeding on adrenochrome. I haven’t kept up with the Epstein files and it’s really difficult to keep up with what’s sensationalized versus what’s actually in there. The idea that Epstein and friends pushed the adrenochrome version of the story to cover the more grounded child sex ring version isn’t too far fetched. It’s so difficult to separate conspiracy theory from fact in this shit. Genuinely the worst timeline.

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              I heard edgy teenagers making jokes about it in highschool over a decade ago. It’s not something I hear on a daily basis.

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              Probably a nod at the cyphers they use. could be acronym or key replacement?

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                Why would a random grafitti mural have anything deeper than a jab at the common use of the term cheese pizza for csam, and the whole pizzagate mess?

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                  Bc if they use key shift cyphers they can say one thing and mean another, but it only looks one way. Its a fantastic and simple way to hide messages.

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          “Cheese Pizza” was a way of calling out and warning other users of pictures that were sketchy and of suspiciously young looking girls without running afoul of filtered or banned words on some bulletin boards and then forum/social media. It was picked up as slang for cp by “edgy” teens and eventually became so common that the pieces of shit that were posting the questionable stuff started referring to it that way. The same thing happened with the pedo bear.
          You don’t have to have been a pedo to have run into pedo shit in the early days of the internet. People didn’t want that shit on their computers and in the early days browsers would cache every image on a page just in case it needed those images again later. So, when you did stumble across this shit, you let others know so that they didn’t have to deal with it and manually purge their caches.