why would you be proud as an american
Hello, this is your assigned FBI agent, why don’t you have a chat with us at the nearest branch?
(Seriously, don’t admit to “treason” throughcrimes on the internet lmfao)
It strikes me as unintentional, but this post is a honeypot. I would not say anything here that I wouldn’t be comfortable with a Kangaroo court judge reading back to me on record
Canada POV: That awkward but pleasant moment when your allies randomly start spawning on enemy territory.
Nothing to be proud about for a country that was built on people taking other people’s homes/land and then still not being able to provide housing or universal healthcare. If war is declared on the US, I will not hesitate to go against this forsaken sad excuse of a psuedo democracy.
I will 1000% defect to Canada
ifwhen this kicks off.If a war kicked off, you wouldn’t want to be in Canada. Canada would lose within days. Then it would become a guerrilla war. 100% chance if that happened that Trump would institute collective punishment, killing 1000 Canadians for every American killed by guerrillas.
The most helpful think Americans could do is stay in the US and fight from within. In fact, why wait for the Canada phase to start? Why not actually do something now?
What makes you think no one is doing anything? Have you seen the news? Please, enlightened advice giver, share with us your wisdom on what the actual fuck else we need to be doing right now.
Who said no one is doing anything?
You won’t be able to get to Canada when the war starts. If you cared, you would go now.
Fuck off with that shit. You have no family, no career responsibilities, and no community connections. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be sounding off like a middle-schooler. You would be offering advice, links to immigration services, or at the very least, be encouraging, iF yOu CaReD.
I’m not posting bullshit online about how I’m going to switch to the Canadian side when the war starts.
Oh no Americans! Downvote me harder. Put me in my little Canadian place for pointing out that you’re all liars and Trump is a natural product of your culture.
It’s all my fault that you can’t stand up to daddy trump because I didn’t do the work for you to figure out how you could help.
I’m not going to be encouraging Americans to continue to spout off more sad lies. Do something or shut up about it. You’re all full of hot air and weak as heck.
" I didn’t end up actually helping the Canadians because they wouldn’t give me
a nobel peace prizelinks and encouragement"You say all that like there’s no Alberta.
Most of us rational Canadians old enough to remember a more civilized version of Alberta, even ones born there, know that present-day Alberta really just needs to have it’s face held underwater until the bubbles stop.
The war doesn’t need to be fought only on Canadian soil even if occupied. An insurgency on American soil is way easier and makes it too costly to maintain and will force the occupation to end.
We should just let it happen? I’m pretty sure Trump already suggested that.
My bad. I forgot to add the word only. I fixed it. My point is that in addition to an insurgency on Canadian soil by Canadians, there would also be an insurgency on American soil by people there from around the world. If Canada isn’t safe, no one else is.
The US would find not just Americans, but people from around the world living in the US would find ways to join the insurgency.
All comments like these do is make people even more apathetic, or even actively negative against your perspective. With that attitude and obvious complete lack of an attempt to consider differing perspectives or think of situations where people cannot just uprooted their entire lives in a day. Because you clearly think your assumptions of everyone’s situations are accurate and inalienable the same way those that support Trump believe he’s right.
Since you clearly are willfully trying not to consider alternate perspectives, based on your other responses in this and similar threads, I hope you’re first in the front. If you were the only casualty I’ll be 100% confident that society across the board would be a better place based on your comments here. The same way that disbanding ICE, or removing Trump from office, would be a net positive across the board.
I am responding to someone who said they will 1000% percent defect to Canada, that person is lying. If they are not willing to make personal sacrifice now, they won’t be willing later either.
That’s fun that you wish death upon me. You’ve really shown that you are the bigger person here.
Still doesn’t change the fact that Americans who say they will help later, are full of shit and and will never make personal sacrifices to help others.
Always love the Canadians that don’t see the exact same stuff taking form in their own backyard. You’re just a decade or two away at this rate. I haven’t seen any attempts to shift away despite having Trump and US Republicans to show you the next steps ahead on your trajectory.
Still doesn’t change the fact that Americans who say they will help later, are full of shit and and will never make personal sacrifices to help others.
Ah yes more generalizations with no basis for them other than your feelings. You’re no different than US Republicans there. Feelings and talking down to foreigners are the most important things to spend your time on.
Thank you captain centrist. You’re words warmed me with the hotness of their air.
I’d personally love to, but my wife is disabled, we’ve got 3 children with varying degrees of developmental disability requiring me as a round the clock caregiver, and we live off my wife’s disability benefit and other government assistance here. No shot we get in.
Only way we’re getting into “Canada” is if y’all annex the Buffalo-Niagara region lmao.
Well you probably will be coming whether you like it or not as part of a meat wave assault to be be left behind to grow flowers in our fields. Watch how far doing nothing because it is too hard gets you.
Ah yes, because it’s definitely the person in poverty whose every waking moment is spent taking care of disabled family members that didn’t do enough to stop the fascist regime.
Trump will probably put their disabled family members in a camp or launch them out of a canon so yea.
Complete non-sequitur, that threat doesn’t just magically give someone more time or resources to “just fight harder 4head” with. If someone has family that literally can’t take care of themselves without them, what happens to that family when that caregiver gets illegally arrested or killed trying to “just fight harder”
Blaming the most vulnerable people for not “fighting harder” is like blaming someone bound to a wheelchair for not being able to stand up on their own.
I’m not blaming them, but their loved one is going to get launched out of a canon. It’s up to them what they do or don’t do about that is up to them.
Aww is the poor baby hurt by reality?
Even if I get drafted for the USA, I am fighting for Canada. What are you going to do, unfrag my superiors?
Don’t know how proud I am, but I am an American, and I am absolutely on the side of Canada
I swear to God I’m going to be a bigger liability to whoever tries to force me to fight in some bullshit war our orange toddler started, than to whoever the idiot picked a fight against.
Why are you proud of something you had no influence in? I was born in Norway, and am glad to have been born here, but I am not proud to have been born here. I had no influence in where I was born, so I don’t feel proud of it, but I feel quite fortunate to have here.
Sweden here. I generally feel an ick when people talk about being proud of their country, or outright patriotism. It smacks too hard of far-right supremacist tendencies to me. It’s why I’ve never been able to really palate the U.S., they’ve always so openly boasted about their own perceived greatness, while blatantly ignoring the falsities of it all.
Obviously there are good things in the U.S., and maybe I’ve always just been a pessimist, but I just don’t get how one can be so self-congratulatory while openly ignoring all the horrors not just of the past, but of present day as well. Had an American roomie, and was absolutely shocked to find out that they actually did a pledge of allegiance daily in his schools. He was unfazed, but to me that’s such 1984-esque dystopian BS.
I also struggle with the idea of being proud of my country. I’m pleased when it does something good, but I really have no influence over it, so whether it does good or bad things is not something that reflects me.
You can be proud of something you didn’t do
Sensible. I don’t know how I even could be a proud American, these days. More like a deeply ashamed American.
SAME. I think a lot of Americans respect Canada and will be on their side.
Why proud? What is left to be proud of, I wonder?
Nationalistic sentiments like that are part of the reason why we’re in this mess to begin with. Start being critical of your government today. Never be satisfied with the status quo. Don’t accept the meager good in spite of the overwhelming bad. Fight to change things for the better so that you can say you are proud of the positive change you made in your country, rather than celebrating merely being born or living here.
Another part of the reason we’re in this mess is infighting and weird purity tests/emotional gatekeeping. So stop that
Californian here.
I ain’t fighting for Ameristan.
Why would I?
I am on the side of human beings, fuck countries/corporations/wealthy. They are part of the problem and definitely not the solution.
There’s no organized army for human beings.
It is a shame, we have been under the yoke of “nations” AKA the corporations and the wealthy for far too long. Even democracy is just a lip service at this point.
I have said it before and I will say it again. No nation on this planet deserves humanity. We need to move beyond these petty squabbles directed by the ruling class. They are the problem and we are the solution.
The side of democracy
