• jeffw@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted

    Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.

    Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.

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        But if someone’s gonna make some wisecrack comment celebrating/endorsing acts of violence, they should definitely watch it to see the sick reality of what they’re celebrating.

        Kirk is (was?) a piece of shit, but the armchair judges, juries, and wannabe executioners around here need a reality check.

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          I watched it 15 times in a row. Gonna watch it a few dozen times more when more perspectives come back. He deserves worse.

          You’re sick in the head

          Goddamn right I’m sick in the head! Fascism makes us sick. All the more reason to stand up to the monsters who push for it.

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                Then why are you not organizing an attack squad? Instead you are just a keyboard warrior hoping to radicalize someone who sees your comments.

                Edit: their removed reply to this post was advocating for violence.

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                  How is your comment not advocating for violence? Really sounds like you’re pushing him to be violent rather than just leave angry comments online

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          There is at least one fewer person advocating for the complete removal of my civil rights as a trans woman.

          He won’t be missed, and in two months I’ll think about him as much as I think about Rush Limbaugh.

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          Kirk pushes a narrative of violence and hate. I felt nothing but celebration seeing him get shot

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        For anyone wondering: it’s not gory as such, but it is significant in that way that tells our lizard brains something undeniably bad just happened.

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          I…what?

          How else would you define ‘gory’?

          I am genuienly curious, you have a definition of gore…that is not fundamentally based in a human realizing something is very, very wrong with another living being?

          Like… your blood is generally supposed to stay inside you. Blood is generally considered more gory the more of it there is.

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            the blood doesn’t spray everywhere or all over him, but you can tell a lot gushed out quickly and goes out of view of the camera….
            it’s really fast and mostly you notice his shirt moving suddenly

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              So to you, only blood spatter is gory?

              Not actually just watching something like 1/3 to 1/2 his blood exit his body in maybe 3 seconds tops?

              Like if a guy shat out all his intenstines, but … they went off camera, neatly into a bucket… that wouldn’t be gory?

              Again I am just curious about this, different people are disgusted by different things, draw the lines in different ways I guess.

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    “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights” - Charlie Kirk, 2023

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      To quote Jesus: live by the sword, die by the sword.

      That’s all that comes to mind.

      These people who have been pushing for getting rid of trans people and throwing immigrants in concentration camps, and generally just calling for (and profiting from) hate need to realize doing so only has one consequence: more hate. Hate boils into violence.

      People can pray for him, but he did not live a life according to Jesus’ teaching when he preached hate.

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      Ironically, this assassin literally justified the 2nd Amendment. You use it to off tyrants. And boy they sure did.

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      It wouldn’t surprise me if this was an inside job to distract from Trumps problems

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        This is just my perspective, and I never wish harm or suffering on another living being, but if what/who you are and advocate for causes these things and you’re too stupid or bribed to see it and continue being you… Then, for the greater good, good riddance

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      It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas. Just glad this happened in Utah and not Illinois or California. Blue states will likely bear the brunt of the repercussions if there are any.

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        They were going to no matter what because no one is willing to stop them. Now there’s one less.

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          Don’t kid yourself, whatever they were going to do, is going to taken up a few notches.

          However you feel about his dying, the manner of his death will absolutely change what happens next.

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            Did anything change after the political assassinations of Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark Hortman?

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              I don’t understand your point.

              Why would Trump care about Democrats being killed?

              This isn’t about moral equivalency, or what’s right, it’s about what’s going to happen next.

              He essentially declared martial law in DC because one of his twerps got hassled, how do you think this goes?

              I don’t think it’s controversial to point out the obvious.

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                Utah County is a very red area in the middle of a very red Utah state, and it happened at a right-leaning college.

                It would be a very bad look if Trump sent troops in because “bad man with gun”. Or it might be a wakeup call for the few dipshits still flying a Trump flag.

                Either way, it’s a complicated aituation.

                Source: I live 20 minutes away from where it happened.

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        It’s all fun and games until Republicans use this as an excuse to further enforce their fascist agendas.

        Republicans are marching National Guard soldiers into the largest cities in America on exaggerated “crime fighting” excuses. They have established an unaccountable militia with ICE hiding their identities and violating the civil rights of American citizens on exaggerated or fabricated drug/violence reasons. They’ve needed no legitimate excuses to do these things, yet they are actively doing them. This changes nothing on that front.

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    This is tragic, but not for the obvious reasons. Despite him being a hateful man who added nothing of value to this world, his death will do the same. ITT there are a lot of people who Kirk has negatively impacted. While I don’t blame anybody for how they feel, no one should be cheering or dancing about somebody’s death. But here we are.

    What concerns me most is that his death will not make things better for anybody. If anything, I worry that it’ll make things much worse. Those people who followed Kirk will now feel more emboldened in their ideology, and view Kirk as a martyr. Trump and his ilk will probably lash out with more bullshit EOs or enforcement of their illegal policing of innocent people.

    Celebrate while you can, as we certainly live in interesting times.

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    I’m super not stoked on this event, I know that makes me a big softy or whatever but I’m not gonna be the one celebrating blood and death and mayhem regardless of who it is…BUT Charlie Kirk is was one of the leading big mouths pushing political discourse to this point. He’s been helping fill the tinderbox and somebody just dropped a lit match into his lap.

    I just hope to God they don’t try to spin this into a store-brand Reichstag Fire moment since they can’t get any big reaction from the Nat’l Guard presence.