I really hope valve can get VAC into a good space so it can be an example of doing anti-cheat well without having to be a rootkit. Looks like we’re heading towards that point. Hopefully this change will last
John Macdonald is cooking the best fucking server-sided anticheat with all that compute power in Bellevue. Lets see him become a master chef!
I’ve been thinking for a while we need more server side stuff. No worries about infringing on the consumers computer then. Hopefully that ends up becoming something good!
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I’ve often thought that the cheaters should be simply shadow banned, and only match with other cheaters. Let them play against the other cheaters and see how well they do.
I always thought there should be an “unlimited class” in the olympics where you can take anything you want. I want to see wildly drugged up athletes competing with each other.
Caaaaaarl, that kills people.
Don’t worry, you can still be buried with the medal if you win
OMG thank God, finally VAC is working??? The cheating was getting so bad. I kick and report people as much as I can but it felt like it never did anything.
Knowing this, I am not as upset about getting caught in the crossfire the other day. VAC flagged my game session after like 2 seconds and I had to reinstall completely.
I should go read some of these cheater forums and maybe talk a little shit. Little fuckers.
During a GDC conference held by John Macdonald (Engineer largely in the data side of Valve’s affairs), he stated that the training of VACnet was largely a “war of datasets”, and he expected the quality to improve as time went on and Valve labelled and processed more internal data for their anticheat.
Considering the leak for “referring to your training manual” for the employee-access version of Overwatch match reporting for CS2 might be an indicator that they were labelling the data the whole time with contractors. Now seems to be the release moment :)
I did finally win a match in CS2 after a long loss streak… it was definitely because everyone else was always cheating… not because I’m shit…
And they did it without installing root kits on our computers.
Hypothesis: people who cheat in video games are scum bags in other aspects of life. I wonder if anyone’s done a study on that. I feel like the kind of person who has to cheat in video games is a broken sad sack.
Ha! Get fucked, losers. Cheaters ruin the fun for everyone, so I hope every last one gets permabanned.
You cannot permaban a cheater for the saame reason you shouldn’t have death penalty, people need to be able to challenge the decision which should trigger a process
As a piece of software, I highly doubt there isn’t a single bug in VAC that would cause a false-positive
When you suspect someone of being highly dangerous you put them in jail even if they are not convicted yet. And when it turns out they are innocent they are released.
A ban is like jail not like a death sentence …
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Nobody can have proof of that, because no such proof can ever exist. How would you ever have a proven correct number of cheaters not detected?
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It can be tested in closed systems but it’s not something you can easily define the success rate of because the cheats are constantly evolving and game updates close or introduce vulnerabilities.
There is still value of having an anti-cheat even if it does not have a high chance of catching cheaters, so long as it keeps false positives to a minimum.
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You can die in a car accident, even if you wear a seat belt.
LOL what’s the value of a seatbelt? You’re either very dull or a troll. Maybe both.
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You failed to understand the parallel between my example and the topic at hand, so I’m proud to announce that you’ve passed the idiot test with flying colors!
Pro tip: apples and oranges can be compared and contrasted. They have a large variety of similarities and differences.
There is evidence kernel level anti cheat can still be bypassed.
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A game blocks cheats or it doesn’t. Valorant certainly still has cheaters. Only cheat providers and gaming companies will have those numbers and I’m not sure they are going to release them.
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Depends on your definition of effective. Both are still certainly too much. I haven’t seen one that’s 100% effective.
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Then I’d argue there isn’t an effective anti cheat. Valorant definitely has cheaters.
*wreaking havoc
Though I kinda like the wrecking sentiment
TIL wreaking is a word. Whops
Wauughhh!
Uaughh!
Ahahaha!
Cry some more, kernel anti cheat stans!
… cry some more.
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Close.
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… for 12 seconds.
