Windows 11 may be the king of operating systems, but Linux is the better alternative for programming and software development.

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    • King
      -41•8 months ago

      A real programmer would focus on the writing and not the thumbnail, like a kiddie.

        • King
          -24•8 months ago

          Book is bad because I dont like the cover

            • King
              -33•8 months ago

              and which math book has that? idk how making up shit helps u here. and it’s not even a good comparison, misinformation vs some ascii art. I hope those real programmers are more mature

      • @sir_reginald@lemmy.world
        15•8 months ago

        I’m not a programmer, just an old school Linux user. The writing is okay, I just pointed out that this thumbnail does not do the article any favor.

        • King
          -28•8 months ago

          I wonder how you tried linux with that silly penguin as a logo, didn’t that give you kiddie vibes too? What’s your opinion on it? Does linux lose your respect over it?

          • @Dotcom@lemmy.ml
            14•8 months ago

            It’s not about the ascii dragon, it’s that Kali Linux is known amongst Linux communities to attract (script) kiddies / wannabe hackers.

            And Tux is a stone cold G. If that penguin alone didn’t bring you over to Linux you have brain problems.

            • King
              -13•8 months ago

              Thumbnail is bad because the distro attracts people I dont like and I’ll even call the authors ignorant over it, those kiddies may be more mature than you, real programmer

              • Rustmilian
                2•8 months ago

                You’re assuming “kiddies” means literal children, but no. It means skill level.
                The problem with scripts kitties is that they’ll only use pre-existing pen-testing tools, maybe those tools work maybe they don’t, either way the script kiddie learns nothing.
                To be a real hacker you need to bare minimum learn a programming language and seek to learn the interworkings of a computer.
                Script kiddies tend to not even attempt to learn.

                • King
                  -3•8 months ago

                  the script kiddie learns nothing.

                  He has something in common with the “real programmers” in this sub then, disregarding an article and even calling the author ignorant because the thumbnail has some …ascii art?

          • @sir_reginald@lemmy.world
            11•8 months ago

            An image is added to an article to catch the reader’s eyes, so the article gets read. I pointed out that this image didn’t transmit a proper impression of the article.

            If you are as superior as your condescending attitude suggests that you don’t even get a first impression of things, good for you. But us, mortals, will have an impression of the article posted by taking a glance at the thumbnail or the cover of a book, if that were the case.

            Of course, that first impression will change after reading the actual content, but getting the first impression right gets you more people looking at the content.

            • King
              -12•8 months ago

              ascii art doesnt transmit a proper impression but a silly penguin for an os does?

              • Aatube
                6•8 months ago

                ASCII art has virtually no relation to Linux and the penguin is at least its mascot. Judge ém or not it’s a SYMBOL, while the ascii art thing does not symbolize much related to the article

                • King
                  -6•8 months ago

                  The picture literally mentions kali linux how many distros mentioned do u need if only u gave same attention to the writing

              • Rustmilian
                4•8 months ago

                a silly penguin for an os does?

                Would you prefer the transgender fox Linux mascot named Xenia? 🧐

                • King
                  -2•8 months ago

                  Im not the one judging content based on thumbnails/logos, ask literally anyone else in this thread

  • @seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org
    62•8 months ago

    Windows 11 may be the king of operating systems

    In what world? I’ve just started using it at work, and I swear the other day it tried to sell me an XBox controller. Not like I was on the Web and an ad popped up, no. It was part of the operating system!

    Can you imagine going back in time 10 years and telling somebody “In the future, Microsoft is going to put pop-up ads in Windows.” People would think you were crazy!

    • Captain Aggravated
      16•8 months ago

      1. The phrase “Windows 11 may be the king of operating systems” brings to my mind an image of a malformed non-functional decadent brat, the result of generations of might makes right and cousin fucking, given absolute power by sheer force of habit because it’s utterly incapable of achieving anything under its own merit. Either this one or his son will be so preoccupied with throwing opulent parties that he won’t bother securing the army’s loyalty, then we can overthrow him and ratify a constitution.

      2. 10 years ago was 2013. Windows 8.1 was their then-current product. If you told me they were going to put ads in Tile Hell, I would have 100% believed you and/or asked “Are you sure they don’t already?” I think you have to reach back to the XP era or earlier for users to be actually incredulous that the OS itself would serve commercials.

      • @andruid@lemmy.ml
        1•8 months ago

        Oh man the amount of hours I put in cleaning out the pre installed garbage on those windows 8 machines

    • Dandroid
      9•8 months ago

      10 years ago was 2013. Microsoft already had ads baked into Windows in 2013.

    • WashedOver
      7•8 months ago

      I recall a time when Windows 10 was going to be the last release of windows. It’s was just going to be updated forever. I’m glad that they have returned to the usual every second or so release is going to be a unfinished half baked turd until we can really get things right in the following release.

      RIP Bob, ME, Vista, 8/8.1, and hopefully sooner than later 11…

  • @LainOfTheWired@lemy.lolEnglish
    16•8 months ago

    It’s the best for a primary OS, but unfortunately you if you make apps or desktop programmes you will probably still need a windows machine, or a Mac, or both. For me I have a windows VM and an old modded mac for those OS’s.

    Though interestingly probably the best machine for cross platform development would be a new-ish tri booted intel Mac with Linux as your main OS.

    Edit: just for the record I use a Thinkpad T430 as my main work computer.

    • @LainOfTheWired@lemy.lolEnglish
      12•8 months ago

      But yeah the way development tools like git just integrate perfectly into the OS is amazing, and the way you can get tools and libraries just by asking your package manager for them is invaluable.

    • @gornius@lemmy.world
      6•8 months ago

      Why do you need Windows VM for developing GUI apps? Last time I used Visual Studio to make GUI app I almost gave up programming, because of how code-generation dependent it was.

      For C# you have AvaloniaUI. For cpp you have countless multi-platform GUI toolkits, same for rust, Java has its own toolkits (multi-platform), and finally you can make an Electron/Tauri app.

  • @Darken@reddthat.com
    11•8 months ago

    Kali has become so stereotypical in my region to the point where it has become cringe therefore I can’t click the thumbnail which has Kali logo stamped on it

    No hate for Kali itself, just the npc’s in my region

    • @SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world
      3•8 months ago

      Eh, I get your point, but I think that Kali’s edgelord “cool” distro factor has pulled a lot of folks into Linux who otherwise wouldn’t have bothered. And any win’s a win in my book.

      • @Darken@reddthat.com
        2•8 months ago

        Even if they don’t know 99% of the tools shipped with Kali, it’s still nice that they got pulled onto the Linux wagon as a “cool” wagon

  • @1984@lemmy.today
    8•8 months ago

    They don’t even mention the invasive tracking in windows. Guess they dont want to upset Microsoft. :)

  • @penquin
    2•8 months ago

    Good ole xda site. Haven’t messed with it for a long, long time. It is a good writeup, I enjoyed reading it, but why does the writer list RPM as a package manager? Isn’t it a package format, or am I crazy?

      • @penquin
        1•8 months ago

        So, I can use sudo rpm install… instead of sudo dnf/yum install…?

        • @CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
          3•8 months ago

          dnf is the right way for an end user to manage packages in modern versions, as it brings lots of extra functionality and an easier command interface - but yes the command rpm -i is able to install and upgrade packages. RPM’s name is a recursive acronym “RPM Package Manager”

    • Joe KlemmerOP
      1•8 months ago

      I’ve been hearing this debate for nearly 32 years. It’s a useless argument.

      The correct name for the # symbol is “octothorpe,” but how many people do you know who call it that? You’ll either hear it called the Pound sign (by us older folk) or the more modern Hash mark.

      The fact is, Linux is both a kernel AND an OS.

  • people_are_cute
    -1•8 months ago

    While WSL2 has a better overall performance than its predecessor, it’s known for hogging a lot of memory. WSL’s read and write times also take a hit if you try to modify or save documents to the Windows file system.

    What!?