Iā€™ve some weeks ago moved my main computer from Windows 10 to Linux, specifically OpenSUSE Leap with the Plasma user environment, mainly because it doesnā€™t have the magic Windows 11 chip. I had never used Linux and have been a Windows user since I was six years old or somewhere around then (Iā€™m in my late twenties now). Iā€™d just like to share my likes and dislikes.

Things I like about Linux (my specific install, anyway):

  • Not being a corporate environment. There arenā€™t any cheeky attempts at making money or advertisement anywhere, like the annoying fake widgets in Windows 11 and the half-filled start menu. Iā€™ve gotten used to that on my laptop (which is running 11), but you do always have the feeling of ā€˜what are they trying now?ā€™ That not being a thing is quite refreshing.
  • In that veign, having actual widgets. I loved them in Windows 7; Iā€™ve got a webpage widget on my second screen showing a Zoho sheet I made with an RSS feed. Just being able to be a bit creative like that is cool.
  • The system seems quite a bit quicker than it was in Windows - though in all honesty this will also be because Iā€™m still on a fairly fresh install.
  • Iā€™m positively surprised by how little I miss from Windows when it comes to programs. Steam having compatibility tools is great, for example. Otherwise there are often replacements for what Iā€™m missing (eg. Iā€™ve found one to allow general settings for my Logitech mouse).
  • The general ability to change the way everything looks and feels. I feel technical people sometimes look down a bit on aesthetics, but I really care about the user interface I use day in day out looking and feeling nice. While Iā€™m a fan of the Windows 11 look myself, I really like how much Iā€™ve been able to get my UI to look how I want it to in Plasma. Though Iā€™m a bit surprised that itā€™s so hard to change the appearance of the start menu and bottom panel. Iā€™ve had to install a specific program to change their colouring.
  • The little icon jumping next to your cursor when opening a program (I know, Iā€™m easily amused).

Things Iā€™ve found annoying:

  • Not knowing where to find anything. Of course, coming from Windows Iā€™m used to there being a program files folder with my programsā€™ folders, and a documents folder with (often) user settings for those programs. In Linux, everything just seems to be everywhere. What seems to be the ā€˜documentsā€™ equivalent for the game Factorio is in my user folder in a hidden .factorio, but Iā€™ve to no avail been trying to find out where my ā€˜documentsā€™ for Workers and Resources are. Iā€™ll find them eventually, Iā€™m sure. In general, Iā€™m looking around a lot, though.
  • The lingering feeling of instability. This is my second install of OpenSUSE, after I messed up something leading to my computer having some files which it wanted to update, but using urls which didnā€™t exist. After this, Iā€™ve been feeling a bit insecure and afraid of doing something that ruins my installation. I know thereā€™s the saying that Linux ā€˜just worksā€™, but Iā€™ve never messed up a Windows installationā€¦
  • The capslock works differently, apparently. Iā€™m used to writing every capital letter using the capslock key, meaning if I write a capital at the beginning of a word, I press capslock, then type the first letter, then quickly press capslock again and type the rest. In Linux, this often doesnā€™t work as it somehow takes a while for the capslock press to go into effect, so you often end up with ā€˜LInuxā€™, for example. After lots of looking around, I have found some script that seems to fix this (ā€˜Linux CapsLock Delay Fixer Masterā€™), but it also randomly stops working and there are other ā€˜odditiesā€™ I canā€™t really explain.
  • Every once in a while, my desktop icons get rearranged. This seems to be a known issue, but itā€™s really annoying.
  • It seems impossible to get Firefox to not restore sessions after shutting down the computer with it still open. Iā€™ve tried several things, but I canā€™t get Firefox to just give me a fresh session on startup.
  • The above all add to a bit of a general ā€˜stuck together with adhesive tape and loveā€™ feeling.
  • Not knowing how to install programs. This is more of a learning-curve thing, obviously. The software centre didnā€™t contain everything I could find online - for some programs, you could use ā€˜one clickā€™ in OpenSUSE, but that seems to work more like a self-destruct button: Iā€™ve tried those several times and have always had bad results >.>. Iā€™ve found itā€™s easiest to install programs just using flatpaks.

All in all, I am quite happy. Though I am still afraid Iā€™ll mess up my installation, and Iā€™m now at a point where thatā€™d hurt. I have installed Timeshift, but also with mixed resultsā€¦

  • Auster
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    On not finding anything, see if OpenSuse has anything like apt-cache. On Debian-based systems, it helps a bunch, as it looks for packages (programs) containing in the name or description the keyword you are looking for. Regarding messing the installation, making back ups periodically and keeping the more volatile stuff you do not want to lose on different physical drives could help.

  • @scratchandgame@lemmy.ml
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    Not knowing where to find anything.

    man, try info too. But linux might not have good man page, so use the wiki too.

  • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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    The capslock works differently, apparently. Iā€™m used to writing every capital letter using the capslock key, meaning if I write a capital at the beginning of a word, I press capslock, then type the first letter, then quickly press capslock again and type the rest.

  • Chris
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    47ā€¢12 days ago

    Pressing caps lock for a single capital letter should be outlawed or be painful or something. Thatā€™s just weird.

    • @MimicJar@lemmy.world
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      I agree, but itā€™s more common than youā€™d think.

      I used to work at an organization that used Chromebooks, which replaces the caps lock key with a search key (same shape, different behaviour). I was surprised at the number of people who struggled with their passwords because they would hit the ā€œsearchā€ key, enter a single letter, and then hit ā€œsearchā€ again. It took me a little while to figure it out becauseā€¦ Who does that?

      • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Thatā€™s still insane thoughā€¦ I will sometimes hit caps lock once or twice on a password screen to make sure itā€™s not on.

        • @MimicJar@lemmy.world
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          Oh I completely agree. There is a reason it took me a while and careful observation before I figured it out.

          I assume itā€™s part of, or started as, a little password dance. Something like, ā€œabc123DEFā€.

          Or maybe it just comes from the idea that only a single key can be pressed at a time?

          Either way I completely agree, insane.

  • Cousin Mose
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    As for it feeling quicker due to it being a fresh install, donā€™t really expect it to slow down. Windows always slows down over time because its Registry is clogged, the code gets more bloated over time with updates, and the filesystem is kind of trash.

    Linux generally stays quite nimble and quick in the long-term. Itā€™s why you can take a decade old computer and still accomplish quite a bit on it with Linux.

    • @buwho@lemmy.ml
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      6ā€¢12 days ago

      yeah i was just thinking this the other day. i have alot of packages on my linux boot. i run mysql,postgres all kinds of stuff, many python versions, still fast as the first day i installed it. windows on the other hand starts bogging down fast. i keep my windows boot withonly the bare minimum of things and turn off almost everything from the start up, woth the hopes of keeping it useable.

    • @Thorned_Rose@sh.itjust.works
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      My single longest install of Linux was 6 years and only ended because I built a new PC. Windows I generally reinstalled at least every two years. I couldnā€™t stand how slow it got.

  • @emberpunk@lemmy.ml
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    14ā€¢12 days ago

    Welcome to Linux. Youā€™ll learn, and for the better, by using it more. Like picking up anything new there will be difficulties at times, but well worth it. The first positive on your list is good enough reason that makes any difficulties worth surpassing.

  • @Xanza@lemm.ee
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    The lingering feeling of instability. This is my second install of OpenSUSE, after I messed up something leading to my computer having some files which it wanted to update, but using urls which didnā€™t exist. After this, Iā€™ve been feeling a bit insecure and afraid of doing something that ruins my installation. I know thereā€™s the saying that Linux ā€˜just worksā€™, but Iā€™ve never messed up a Windows installationā€¦

    IMO this is a right of passage. Sure, windows babies you to the point where you canā€™t really mess much up, but that doesnā€™t mean its impossible to mess up. Iā€™ve also borked Windows installs just by using them over long periods of time. You bork linux a few times and learn what not to do.

  • @Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    ive been using linux for about 4 years now and I still have no idea where the things are kept. Im getting the feel for it slowly like everything flatpak is in a hidden folder .var my solution is to just make a simlink to folders I want to vist and put them in my home folder.

      • Emma Liv
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        4ā€¢11 days ago

        Config files for programs are in hidden folders in ~ (as you discovered) OR in ~/.config OR in ~/.local/share (yeah itā€™s a bit of a mess)

        Config files for flatpaks can be found under ~/.var/app (usually, some flatpaks have permissions to write outside that directory).

        • @a14o@feddit.org
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          Just want to point out that, while itā€™s a mess in practice, there is a correct place for these files and the problem is that many applications ignore it. Configuration files should be written to an aptly named folder in ~/.config/ (or more precisely, in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME which is set to ~/.config/ in most systems). ~/.local/share/ (or $XDG_DATA_HOME, respectively) is for user data, which is different from config.

  • qkalligula
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    @DonAntonioMagino making backups of your home folder (/home/username) is a great ways to survive reinstalls. also install discovery if you donā€™t have it. its an easy way to install and find softwareā€¦ i dont know opensuse package managerā€¦ but it should be a simple command

  • @LordPassionFruit@lemm.ee
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    Zypper (openSUSEā€™s package manager) is what I use for installing programs and its relatively easy. Find the package name on openSUSE.org, then put ā€œsudo zypper in [package-name]ā€ into the terminal.

    • @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
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      YaST Software Management is also very useful. sometimes itā€™s easier to work with that, especially when youā€™re browsing packages and their descriptions, or you want to see/switch available versions of a package

  • Spaniard
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    The lingering feeling of instability. This is my second install of OpenSUSE, after I messed up something leading to my computer having some files which it wanted to update, but using urls which didnā€™t exist. After this, Iā€™ve been feeling a bit insecure and afraid of doing something that ruins my installation. I know thereā€™s the saying that Linux ā€˜just worksā€™, but Iā€™ve never messed up a Windows installationā€¦

    Regarding this. How often did you mess your windows installation when you started? Because I started around 8 years old with MSDOS and I screwed Windows many times, eventually I learnt what to do and what not.

    Regarding software today itā€™s easier than itā€™s ever been in Linux. With flatpack, appimages and the different repos.

    Anyway there is this scene in the show ā€œBojack Horsemanā€ where the titular character was trying to do some exercise by running up a hill and he is tired, exhausted, another characters pass by and says: ā€œIt gets easierā€, ā€œuh?ā€ answers Bojack, ā€œIt gets easier but you have to do it every day, thatā€™s the hard partā€.

    What that means is, it will get easier, specially when you are young, but you have to be constant, you have to keep messing around and do backups.

    Here is the scene from Bojack

    That being said, I am huge fan of opensuse and debian but eventually on my desktop I went with endeavour-os, the only time I screwed it up it was easy to fix it by using the live-iso editing the config files and fixed, now I keep a journal when I change anything :)

  • @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    The system seems quite a bit quicker than it was in Windows - though in all honesty this will also be because Iā€™m still on a fairly fresh install.

    I donā€™t think your Linux install is likely to slow down the way Win does.

    The little icon jumping next to your cursor when opening a program (I know, Iā€™m easily amused).

    I consider Win unique as an OS that doesnā€™t provide feedback when something is happening in the background. Itā€™s infuriating.

    The lingering feeling of instability.

    Youā€™ve spent decades on the other system and when you started, you were too young to feel anxiety about it. Youā€™ll get used to it.

    The capslock works differently, apparently. Iā€™m used to writing every capital letter using the capslock key, meaning if I write a capital at the beginning of a word, I press capslock, then type the first letter, then quickly press capslock again and type the rest.

    I donā€™t understand why you donā€™t use the Shift key. Iā€™m not trying to be an ass; why not use Shift?

    I say all of this as a Mac guy who uses Linux for servers and such. I donā€™t daily-drive Linux as a desktop platform. But I greatly respect Linux and pay to support the Asahi Linux project (they are building Linux for Apple Silicon). I wish you all the best finding your way in a Windows-free world.

  • @utopiah@lemmy.ml
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    First and foremost, welcome to Linux!

    Few pointers to hopefully help the process :

    • ā€œNot knowing where to find anything.ā€ indeed, itā€™s disorienting but it will come. You can find actual ā€œmapsā€ but honestly, just as you would do in other operating system, use the search function. If itā€™s not obvious this way, search online. The first few times it will be weird then each time it does become easier until it actually makes sense!
    • ā€œThe lingering feeling of instability.ā€ have a /home directory (not ā€œfolderā€, thatā€™s funnily enough a Windows term as they tried to be different, going from the unanimously used / to their own C:\ things) so that you can actually go ā€œnutsā€ with your installation, actually messing things up but without the fear of losing your precious data! Each new install is an occasion to learn. That being said, Linux is very VERY stable. Iā€™ve been running the same installation for years, on desktop and servers alike. If something goes wrong it can usually be fixed and itā€™s, again, an occasion to learn. That being said, having a dedicated /home directory on its own partition or even disk gives you the opportunity for a low effort low risk blank slate.
    • ā€œThe capslock works differentlyā€ ā€¦ well this one is quick, youā€™re looking for the SHIFT key if you only want to type few characters in uppercase ;)
    • ā€œEvery once in a while, my desktop icons get rearranged.ā€ yet another occasion to learn. Whatā€™s the bug from? Is there an issue open? Is it being worked on? By whom? How? Why? You might even be able to fix it!
    • ā€œIt seems impossible to get Firefox to not restore sessions after shutting down the computer with it still open.ā€ itā€™s in the Firefox preference : Settings -> Startup -> untick ā€œOpen previous windows and tabsā€, literally the first option.
    • ā€œThe above all add to a bit of a general ā€˜stuck together with adhesive tape and loveā€™ feeling.ā€ nice, and thatā€™s just the surface, itā€™s now YOUR system so you can do whatever you want, even if everybody else disagree.
    • ā€œNot knowing how to install programs.ā€ well that loops back to all the learning opportunities above and the last remark, itā€™s YOUR system so you can use whatever you prefer, both in terms of apps, settings or even how to install (or not! Check e.g. Nix) apps. There are even ā€œweirderā€ things like https://github.com/ivan-hc/AM but the point is, you decide, again, always!
      • Random Dent
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        Oh yeah same here, Iā€™ve been using Linux in some form or another since maybe 2006 or so, and I still have a folder in Obsidian thatā€™s just notes about Linux lol. Usually if I customize something or fix something or learn something new, Iā€™ll chuck it in the notes along with the link to where I found it so I donā€™t have to retrace my steps looking for it again.

  • @just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    • Canā€™t find anything: everything is meant to be searchable in lieu of having a programs menu and such. Hit your meta key (Winkey) and start typing to find or launch something, use URL bar in your file manager to search for names or content of filesā€¦etc. You can also just set icons for things if you wish.
    • Instability: there is almost zero chance of you being able to destroy your environment so bad that it would require a reinstall of the OS. Since itā€™s just flat files on a disk and no central registry like Windows, everything can be repaired quite simply, you just need to be familiar with how.
    • Capslock: unfamiliar with your intended behavior as Iā€™ve never used Capslock like that before, but I bet there is a solution for this if you just search around. Input behavior is totally customizable.
    • Desktop icons: no idea what that could be, but as mentioned above, most DEā€™s have or are moving away from desktop as a launch source.
    • Firefox: ā€˜about:configā€™ has these settings
    • Software center is just one GUI for finding things. You can install whatever you want however you want, and thatā€™s just up to you. If you find some piece of something you want to run, the preferred method is also using a package for your OSā€™s package manager, but thatā€™s just for convenience and not a hard rule. There is no ā€œbestā€ solution, just good habits.

    Good luck!

    • Don Antonio MaginoOP
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      Instability: there is almost zero chance of you being able to destroy your environment so bad that it would require a reinstall of the OS. Since itā€™s just flat files on a disk and no central registry like Windows, everything can be repaired quite simply, you just need to be familiar with how.

      Yeah, but I spent half a day faffing about trying to see what Iā€™d done wrong and searching online for hints. I suppose I didnā€™t literally ruin my installation, but Iā€™d messed it up enough for me to not know how to fix it, so I gave up.

      Firefox: ā€˜about:configā€™ has these settings

      Thatā€™s the first thing you find online, pretty much. Changing settings in about:config doesnā€™t work (in this case), and Iā€™ve followed instructions involving adding an autoconfig.cfg file to the Firefox installation folder, which also didnā€™t work. But yeah, like I said, I tried some things and have not been able to get Firefox to start a fresh session on startup, after shutting down the computer with it still open.

      Thanks for the advice!