• @whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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    I love that out minister Joly flat out told CNN, and I’m paraphrasing, “if we are being honest America is a net exporter of immigrants and drugs to Canada. Don’t lie and say this is about drugs or immigrants it isn’t. It’s about destroying the Canadian economy so you can annex us for everything that makes us one of the most desired countries in the world to live.”

    Seriously fuck America

    • @BobGnarley@lemm.ee
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      America is also the number one consumer of drugs worldwide.

      But I bet you won’t see any of that money flowing to help that side of the problem.

      Just more boots to the door and guns in your faces while we take all your shit and auction it off while you’re locked up. Its sick.

    • @Cataphract@lemmy.ml
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      Oh man, talk about a head fuck. Sending drugs/immigrants to Canada and guns/gangs to Mexico. We(usa) are rightly fucked as a society, over half of us probably feel a weird joy of being such a cluster fuck of a trailerpark neighbor. The shit we prop up, including narcissistic actions being praised, makes me glad that I’m seeing so many countries pushing back on importing more “American culture” and going by their own light.

      I think the “seriously fuck america” is a little much and vague. Even if immigrants and drugs from Mexico were previously perceived wrongly (at least in amplitude and hysteria), I never thought “fuck Mexico”. I think people are kinda forgetting that even if the coaches have changed, this is still America’s playbook. They’re not going to play unless they make us pay. We’ve been targeting smaller countries and doing the same bullshit with a clean smile to the world for decades. Look at the ACA, now everyone HAS to have insurance (doesn’t help affordability, and sometimes costs more), and they’ve tacked on a yearly fine if you don’t comply while basically allowing the government to subsidize the insurance ceos.

      We’re a publicly traded country now though instead of being privately cut-throat. Stock holders want their continued profits and they see bigger gains in bigger countries.

      • @melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        36 days ago

        also, mexico’s cartel problem MAY have been started, or at least seriously ramped up, by the CIA-it’s exactly their SOP, and it got seriously bad like right after a teacher’s strike in oaxaca got juuuust a little too much popular support, started looking really communist.

  • @BilboBargains@lemmy.world
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    Pardoning Ulbricht is the incredibly thin silver lining of Trump’s presidency. These drug war advocates talk like they really believe this problem can be solved with criminal justice, meanwhile they defund harm reduction education and make healthcare inaccessible. It’s diabolical.

    • @Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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      67 days ago

      Ulbricht was a sack of shit. He tried to hire several hitmen to kill agents investigating his stuff. He isn’t someone you want to get behind.

      • @technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        He tried to hire several hitmen federal agents to kill agents investigating his stuff.

        In Ross’ defense people should defend themselves from violent prohibitionists who lock encage, torture, and murder people.

        Prohibitionists are the true sacks of shit. Endlessly profiting from drugs and violence.

        • Hominine
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          16 days ago

          …prohibiting the sale of child pornography, weapons, and drugs. But I see you’re neatly setting some of these aside.

        • @Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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          Dude he hired FBI agents whom he thought were hitmen. If he knew they were Feds he would not have done it.

          I believe in lifting prohibitions on drugs. But that doesn’t make people like Ross stand up guys. He is genuine sack of human shit.

      • @BilboBargains@lemmy.world
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        The war on drugs is not ethical and the very last people I will get behind are law enforcement. The case against Ulbricht was a tissue of lies and fabrication.

    • @Professorozone@lemmy.world
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      I had never heard of him or the Silk Road. I just looked it up and it seems like there was some benefit to creating a place where people could find drugs without the dangerous human encounters that can happen during these sales but it also said that the site was used to trade in illegal weapons, hacking tools and tutorials, hit men for hire and other unlawful goods and services. Doesn’t sound like much of a silver lining to me. More like an aluminum lining.

      • @BilboBargains@lemmy.world
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        Would you trade in weapons or hacking tools? Those are societal problems and locking up a single person makes literally zero difference to that problem. The reality is that there are now many competing sites offering the same items and worse. The opioid crisis in America was created by literally one family, the Sackler’s, why aren’t they in prison? This is a justice system that behaves like a banana republic.

        • @Professorozone@lemmy.world
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          Your agreement could be used for the crime of mass shootings. It’s a societal problem, what’s the use in locking up one person?

          I think if it’s true, he should be locked up AND the Sacklers right next to him.

          • @BilboBargains@lemmy.world
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            This is a criminal justice system where penalties scale with skin colour and inversely with wealth. They got pissy with Ulbricht due to the sheer scale of the manhunt required to get one person, a vast sum was spent that could have been spent on healthcare and harm reduction. They don’t actually care about the damage that drugs do or rehabilitation, this is about punishment. Everyone needs to take responsibility for their actions, except wealthy white people.

  • @Alloi@lemmy.world
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    my assumption is that he wants a guy like that to assist in the operations of a new american run private cartel network, after they have ousted mexican cartels who cant be reasoned with to give up their profits to the US Oligarchs and private contract groups. they get a chance to install their own american run mexican cartel in mexico, and take over their drug trade for private funding operations. it would explain the 3000 troops they sent to the southern boarder, among other “official” reason.

    this guy will help them with connecting with private sellers, to private clients, and logistics. im also assuming that this “new silk road” will be heavily monitored under the guise of decentralization and privacy, for use in things like blackmail, and coercion of users. or simply to attack other drug trade networks by undermining their image and pricing.

    but what do i know? im just some guy in a bathtub.

    • @Hochiiplox@lemmy.world
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      This tracks given his posts the other day about “the US beginning the crypto capital of the world”

      It’s all about to become some dark enlightenment bullshit

  • @FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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    I also want to point out that when whites are addicts, they go after the dealers. When blacks are addicted, they go after the users

  • If any of these worthless politicians actually gave a shit about drug abuse, they would end prohibition and offer basic social services.

    Never gonna happen regardless of the politician’s brand.

    • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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      All research and successful drug policy shows that treatment should be increased and law enforcement decreased while abolishing mandatory minimum sentences

  • @Kahless@infosec.pub
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    Ross Ulbricht’s release was a deal with the Libertarians for their endorsement. Silk Road did not offer weapons and he did not hire a criminal to murder anyone. The FBI staged the whole thing. They forced his old roommate to pose as a murder victim. He later appoligized. A pretty messy affair and Ulbricht’s release is justified. Even though Trump only did it to gain Libertarian votes.

  • Da Cap’n
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    76 days ago

    Shit, Ross is a mfing hero in my eyes. Fuck prohibition.

  • @iiinnnn@lemm.ee
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    87 days ago

    Pardoning him was however a good thing, given price gouging regarding medications

    • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      What does that have to do with Ulbrecht??

      Edit: to be clear, darknet markets still exist, and never stopped existing. You don’t need to pardon someone convicted of attempted murder for this.

      • @Katana314@lemmy.world
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        37 days ago

        I’m going to guess there were prescription meds available on SR. The danger is, if they weren’t going through FDA or any oversight, it’s very possible they were some other “mix” containing addictive substances.

        • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Sure, but darknet markets never stopped existing. You don’t need this one loser to be out of prison for these things to exist (and they probably function better without him)

  • @Anivia@feddit.org
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    As much as I hate Trump, I don’t think this is the “gotcha” it is being portraied as by this tweet. Silk Road was one of the best things to happen for the “safer use” movement of all time. The ability to not have to deal with shady street dealers and order from darknet suppliers on a platform that had legitimate reviews and an escrow system was a huge improvement to the safety of drugs users. It meant a much lower risk of contaminated drugs or getting scammed out of your money.

    Of course Ross allegedly also attempted to hire a hitman, which is how he got caught, cause the hitman was an undercover agent, so he allegedly is not a good guy regardless of how you think about him helping people get access to cleaner drugs, but that’s besides the point the author of the tweet is trying to make

    • @Doomsider@lemmy.world
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      People died from overdoses not to mention lots more ruined lives. I get you like the idea of drugs that are safer to order but that does not make it a good thing.

      Also lots of child pornography, murder for hire, human trafficking, and all kinds of other shitty things took place. So yeah, not exactly a good thing.

      • @Kahless@infosec.pub
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        Silk Road did not offer child pornography, weapons, people or hitman services. Ross Ulbricht did not hire a hitman to kill his roommate. He was framed by the FBI and the roommate was coerced into helping stage the murder. The roommate later appologized and tried to get Ulbricht out of prison. Don’t believe all the propaganda. Drugs are dangerous, but law inforcement is always more dangerous.

        • @Doomsider@lemmy.world
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          Only 70% of purchases were drug related. I find it fascinating people triy to defend this garbage human being. Did he purposely offer hitman, weapons, and CP? Perhaps not, but there is no doubt these things took place on this site as they take place on every site. The difference is of course he profited from these interactions taking a cut of drugs and “other” services.

          I get it though, law enforcement is worse than the drug dealer that got your little sister hooked on fentanyl leading to her death.

      • @Crikeste@lemm.ee
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        People die from overdoses every day without the Silk Road so I don’t know where you get off making that argument.

        And in what world is safer drugs NOT a good thing?

        And I’m pretty sure every social media service has had problems with everything you listed at the bottom.

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          When someone facilitates the selling of illicit unregulated substances that cause the death of others they are often held responsible. Pretty sure that’s how it is supposed to work.

          I get it, you want to have an illegal unregulated illicit drug market and you don’t care who it harms. Pretty sure that makes you a POS unless I am missing something.

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        lots of child pornography, murder for hire, human trafficking,

        Are you talking about silk road? Is this some lib conspiracy that I haven’t heard? I think you need to read something based in reality.

  • @KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee
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    This is even more preposterous when you realize trump’s boys are presently organizing Florida into the cocaine/meth distribution point for Latin America. They have a mob boss for a dad. Mobsters like the money drugs bring in. Expect trump to make ALL drugs illegal again - even medical marijuana. Mobsters make lots more money off illegal drugs than legal ones (except for the mob owned pharmaceutical companies - I think we’ve all seen their pricing in action… $400 dollars for a drug that costs $5 to make (looking at YOU, insulin).

  • @Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    Another garbage pardon by garbage people. Why does he like criminals soo much!? Oh yeah, he is one himself.

    I guess the silver lining is that we can recognize no one single entity should be allowed this discretion to pardon people. Donald Cuck’s abuse of this privilege helps us realize that is should not be a privilege at all.