WAIT!

before you start commenting that TUI musicplayer xy is the best, my priorities:

must have:

  • support for m3u playlists (synced to Android with Syncthingy) should autodetect them in a single folder I use also for the music files, and read/write them
  • support for viewing all files
  • support for custom music directories
  • support for deleting music files
  • Flatpak OR clutterfree on KDE

would like:

  • Pipewire output
  • nice simple GUI
  • modern, clutterfree design OR customizability
  • subtitles, cover images, etc.

I used G4Music which looks awesome and has minimal playlist support. It works really well but it cant write to the playlist. It is blazingly fast, and I made an issue, offering a bounty for write-to-playlist support.

I found Lollypop, the old GTK UI is way better than the Qt alternatives, while still kinda ugly. But it seems to tick all boxes, apart from Pipewire support.

What I tried:

G4Music

  • UI perfect
  • no file deletion
  • no playlist addition
  • no playlist creation

Lollypop

  • UI is bareable
  • pulseaudio, no setting at all
  • playlist support including writing to! You need to enable it
  • lots of internet stuff for artwork and subtitles
  • sane defaults

GNOME music

  • does not detect my .m3u playlists
  • slow
  • needs pulseaudio
  • settings are a joke
  • no folder view

Strawberry

  • UI is horrible and not customizable enough
  • no Pipewire support
  • no .m3u detection
  • cluttered, no UI zoom possible
  • system icon theme is not applied

Clementine

  • like strawberry but different?
  • more online stuff
  • interface less customizable
  • cursor broken on the Flatpak

Amarok

  • Strawberry in even older?
  • bloat?
  • retro-development status

MusicPod

  • UI hides too much stuff
  • no playlist support
  • no filesystem hierarchy support
  • strange Ubuntu look, but good UI, fancy background
  • no podcast backup file support (so Kasts is better for that)
  • but pipewire support!

Plattenalbum

  • no playlist support
  • otherwise looks great

Resonance

  • modern, GTK4 Libadwaita, UI is damn lit
  • freezes, fills up the entire RAM (scans every title at once!) -> not optimized at all, made system freeze and needed to hard shutdown.
  • no playlist support?
  • no pipewire support?

Melody

  • uses soon EOL GNOME 42 runtime

Amberol

  • beautiful but too minimalist
  • why are there soo many GNOME music players??

moosync

  • very nice UI
  • electron: tiny cursor on Wayland, no Pipewire support
  • plugin support for Youtube, Spotify (using librespot) and LastFM
  • local playlists seem broken
  • @paskalivichi@sh.itjust.works
    5•6 months ago

    If your system is using pipewire, any audio player will also use it.

    Strawberry is the best youre gonna get. For KDE, Elisa is also an option ive used in the past. Prettier but simpler.

    • boredsquirrelOP
      0•6 months ago

      No it will use ALSA, Jack or often Pulseaudio. Pipewire can plug into these, but this causes overhead and to my knowledge doesnt allow things like external Equalization.

      I may have to give Elisa another try. I think Strawberry (and Clementine) and Elisa suck. They are completely unintuitive, the UI has too many buttons and options for random stuff, and basic things you expect dont work.

      • @leopoldEnglish
        3•6 months ago

        Source? PipeWire was designed to use those APIs. This is the first time I hear about it causing any particular issues or overhead.

      • @Klaymore@sh.itjust.works
        2•6 months ago

        I use Strawberry with JamesDSP for Linux (on Pipewire) and the equalizer works, not sure how other equalizer software does it though.

    • boredsquirrelOP
      1•6 months ago

      Yes I tried it and really like a lot of it, but some thing didnt suit my needs.

      Maybe it was the lack of setting a custom directory, or not read/writing the .m3u playlist files correctly.

  • @rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio
    2•6 months ago

    I dunno if VLC can do “Pipewire output”, but I think it does a lot of the other stuff you mentioned. I use it on my desktop (Mint) and my phone (Android) and it suits my needs at least.

    • boredsquirrelOP
      1•6 months ago

      Hm, VLC is an unofficial (but very well done) Flatpak, no Wayland support and a bit bloated and not well suited for playing music afaik. But I may have to give it another try.

      The new 4.0 version of VLC looks very cool, but it is only available from an Ubuntu PPA which I used with a Ubuntu Distrobox, but no way that sucks too.

      Should do some Github action to extract the binary from that PPA and pack it into a Flatpak.

  • circuitfarmer
    2•6 months ago

    The lack of a really good, customizable player on Linux has been probably my least favorite part of the whole experience. Deadbeef is close, but it seriously needs a good media library plugin.

    For that reason, I’m still using foobar2000, which is Windows-only but available as a Snap using wine (and yes, I hate Snap). I check regularly to see if there are better native options, but even with the clunk from Snap and the relatively ugly UI due to wine, foobar remains superior IMHO. I think it checks all your boxes, except it’s a Snap.

  • @Unquote0270@programming.dev
    2•6 months ago

    I’ve been down this rabbit hole as well. They all have problems but I’m most happy with Cantata for library playing (beets for file/tag management) and deadbeef for odd local files and file conversation.

  • Ephera
    1•6 months ago

    Maybe JuK: https://juk.kde.org/

    It is for the most part as minimal as it looks, except that it’s actually quite good for playlists and managing one’s music collection.

    It doesn’t have a ton of devs behind it, so I would be surprised, if they had native Pipewire support already. Otherwise, I think, it covers what you’ve listed.

    • boredsquirrelOP
      1•6 months ago

      Juk was the main music player in LXQt and I cant find it anywhere.

      It will likely be on Qt5 or even older, and not get updates any time soon.

      • @leopoldEnglish
        3•6 months ago

        Dunno what you mean. JuK was ported to Qt6 last February alongside the rest of KDE. It’s on Flathub and most distro repositories.

        • boredsquirrelOP
          1•5 months ago

          Interesting maybe that was a bit later, when I looked I could not find it.

          Thanks for pointing that out!

  • @sudo@programming.dev
    1•6 months ago

    MPD + some GUI client. Plattenalbum is one such client but it’s an outlier because its album based when MPD is playlist based.

    • directories for music or playlists are configurable
    • supports alsa, jack, pulseaudio, and pipewire
    • album art is up to the client
    • deleting music is up to the client.

    Cantata is another GUI mpd client that I’ve used and enjoyed. It’s unmaintained but would other fit your needs. I also recommend installing mpDris for mpris support.