• boredsquirrel
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    Wow this is awesome! Waydroid is insecure (outdated, rootful container), slow in development and only sandboxed on Fedora.

    But that they take Newpipe… which is notoriously broken as Youtube tries to block everything…

    Other apps are

    • OSMAnd~
    • OrganicMaps
    • Grayjay
    • Jerboa, Fedilab, Pixeldroid
    • Amethyst, Voyage

    Those are really unique on Android

    • Quack Doc
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      it’s worth noting that no actual security problems have been presented that haven’t been dealt with, Sandboxing is available on any distro assuming the tools are made availible. Waydroid supports both apparmor and selinux, please report any security issues and tag the maintainers when doing so.

      EDIT: you do need to set apparmor into enforce mode manually though.

        • Quack Doc
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          It’s less secure, but the host<->guest seperation is there.

      • boredsquirrel
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        Freetube uses Electron. The Flatpak is 240MB in size, the Newpipe + Translation layer is 40MB

        It also doesnt bundle an often outdated version of Chromium, as found in Electron

        But I tried Newpipe Flatpak and it was blocked totally. May have been because of my VPN though. Freetube had the same issues.

        Grayjay is king at block circumvention

        • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Good to know, thanks. If the FreeTube flatpak is working for me, I might as well try the Newpipe one if it’s that much better. I guess I just assumed that the translation layer would add CPU overhead.

          I’ll have to look into Grayjay. Is there a flatpak? I’m on immutable, so flatpak is much preferred.

          • boredsquirrel
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            12 months ago

            Newpipe flatpak is totally broken XD

            but it is more efficient, the translation layer is not an issue.

            Actually, I am not sure what LocalSend and ConverterNOW use but those also look kinda like Android apps with GTK decorations.

            Grayjay is android-only but a really nice cross-platform player. It is a framework with plugins, for nearly all streaming services… apart from Peertube??

    • Fushuan [he/him]
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      52 months ago

      I went from newpipe to tubular since it comes with sponsorblock, but iirc the backend is the same.

      No VPN or anything, it works great.

        • @uzay@infosec.pub
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          It’s most likely watching Youtube with your VPN that’s broken then, not NewPipe. Youtube implemented Captchas for IPs that generate a lot of traffic/a lot of people are using. That’s how they are trying to kill frontends like invidious that proxy the requests. NewPipe by default uses your own IP so it doesn’t have that problem. If you use a VPN IP that a lot of others are using too, you’ll get that same problem though.

          • boredsquirrel
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            12 months ago

            Yes I assume this increases many issues.

            This might also explain why sometimes the one, sometimes the other app (desktop vs phone) is broken

    • Lime Buzz
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      42 months ago

      Which version of Newpipe are you using? You’ll want to use their latest release repository rather than the ‘stable’ one, that seems to make it work.

    • @shekau@lemmy.today
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      Newpipe works perfectly fine with only small issues sometimes. OrganicMaps is available on flathub

      • PureTryOut
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        The OrganicMaps for “regular” Linux is very different from the Android app though. Completely different UI tech (Qt vs native Android widgets) and lacks important things like turn-by-turn navigation.