• @ulterno
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    -53 months ago

    Well, they called it a slur. That’s good enough a reason.

    That’s why I don’t like the idea of censoring slurs. Anything can be one.
    If some chap at X, determining which word is considered a slur, says, “I watched a YouTube video with <public personality> telling someone else not to call them ‘cisgender’.”, that’s probably good enough to add it to the list, while most of them not actually matching the dictionary definition for “slur”.

    The point comes as to where to draw the line and the company gets to choose.

    • @winterayars@sh.itjust.works
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      33 months ago

      It’s not a slur, is the thing. Not any more than “transgender” is and, in fact, less so.

      They know this but they are pretending otherwise, as if Elongated Muskrat were a power mad 1990s forum moderator.

      • @ulterno
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        -13 months ago

        pretending otherwise

        Welcome to modern society. Everybody loves to pretend.

        The people pretending to be offended by some random mistaken word uttered by another.
        Those pretending to care about something that they are using “politically correct” words for.
        Microsoft pretending to care about OSS, in the hopes of getting some highly performant devs.

        Yes, it’s not a slur. But someone told another person to not call them a “cis woman” on camera and now it is whatever, you call it.

    • @Omniraptor@lemm.ee
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      3 months ago

      The thing is, I dislike censorship in general. Corporate or government. Yes it’s the corp’s prerogative, but we’re allowed to criticize corporate censorship and hypocrisy regarding censorship.

      I don’t get why people defend censorship by powerful/monopolistic companies run by billionaires while criticizing censorship by the government. They’re not that different.

      • @Omniraptor@lemm.ee
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        33 months ago

        My personal opinion is that for “edge cases” like cisgender, I should be the one who decides what “slurs” I see or don’t see on the feed, rather than some shmuck twitter mod who watched a YouTube video or whatever.

        • @winterayars@sh.itjust.works
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          23 months ago

          I mean it’s still not an edge case. It’s just not.

          Like, insert that “That’s not how this works, that isn’t how any of this works” meme here.

          • @Omniraptor@lemm.ee
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            13 months ago

            yes, that’s why I put it in quotes. However given the diversity of culture and language there’s still going to be slurs that the predominantly English speaking mods will not be aware of, so users should be able to set their own filters.

        • @ulterno
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          Well, you have that choice on Lemmy. Even if a mod deletes a comment, you still get to see it in the Mod Log.

          And this is how their[1] empires fall.


          1. implying X, Reddit etc. ↩︎

      • @ulterno
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        03 months ago

        I don’t get why people defend censorship by powerful/monopolistic companies

        I won’t get that either.

        But unlike the Government, which is at least, supposed to care about us when making their policies,
        the companies don’t. Whatever gets them more money[1] is what wins.

        Well, said companies will realise in time[2] when it hurts them where they care about and will have to consider changing stances.


        1. No idea about X though, it seems to love losing everything ↩︎

        2. once the Federation evens (or at least smooths down a bit) the playing field ↩︎