Ladybird
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Ladybird is a truly independent web browser, backed by a non-profit.
  • @rekabis@lemmy.ca
    13•3 months ago

    We don’t have anyone actively working on Windows support, and there are considerable changes required to make it work well outside a Unix-like environment.

    We would like to do Windows eventually, but it’s not a priority at the moment.

    This is how you make “critical mass” adoption that much more difficult.

    As much as I love Linux, if you are creating a program to be used by everyone and anyone, you achieve adoption inertia and public consciousness penetration by focusing on the largest platform first. And at 72% market share, that would be Windows.

    I hope this initiative works. I really do. But intentionally ignoring three-quarters of the market is tantamount to breaking at least one leg before the starting gate even opens. This browser is likely to be relegated to being a highly niche and special-interest-only browser with minuscule adoption numbers, which means it will be virtually ignored by web developers and web policy makers.

    • CethinEnglish
      29•3 months ago

      Linux users tend to give much better bug reports than Windows users (if they do at all). That alone is probably a good enough reason to do Linux first. There are many more good reasons when the first goal is getting it functional and not getting as many users as possible (who will probably hate it if they’re not a technically skilled user because there will be bugs).

      You’re making an assumption their first priority is the number of users. I would suspect that isn’t true, and they’re aware Windows has more users.

    • @leopold
      17•3 months ago

      LadyBird is an unusable pre-alpha-quality web browser. The fact that they haven’t bothered porting to Windows yet is both thoroughly unsurprising and entirely meaningless. In its current state, it wouldn’t become popular either way. But I guess Linux users have this weird inferiority complex where everything must instantly be dropped to port to Windows even when it makes little sense to do so.

    • @LeFantome@programming.dev
      11•3 months ago

      Ladybird was originally started as a browser for SerenityOS, a POSIX operating system. Well into the project, they decided to make it cross-platform but that still meant POSIX ( Linux and macOS ). As interest ( and sponsorships ) came in from outside SerenityOS, focus moved more and more to the browser and away from SerenityOS.

      Just recently, Ladybird decided to split from SerenityOS, allow more outside code, and in fact has dropped SerenityOS as a supported OS.

      The project is fairly pragmatic. I am sure they will add Windows support as the core browser engine matures.

    • @x00z@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4•3 months ago

      We would like to do Windows eventually, but it’s not a priority at the moment.

      intentionally ignoring

      I think you just read what you wanted to read don’t you think?