It looks like the internet archive is needed assistance, I just heard about this today and figured lemmy could help spread this message around

  • lemmyvoreEnglish
    12•6 months ago

    You’re using the publisher’s arguments in your comment. If anybody’s interested, here’s the IA’s counter-argument. It boils down to the fact publishers are challenging practices that used to be considered fair use… just because they can.

    This decision has wide-reaching implications that will affect all libraries, not just the IA.

    Ultimately we’ll just have to see what the appeal decision will be.

    • @Ferk@lemmy.ml
      3•6 months ago

      In that counter argument they are essentially admitting that 99% of their content was distributed without the copyright holder’s consent.

      In the CDL lawsuit, they have admitted that of the millions of books we have digitized, they themselves have only made about 33,000 available to libraries; only about 1% of what we have done, and only under restrictive and expensive license agreements. This is, they claim, the essence of their copyright rights: the ability to restrict access to information as they see fit, to further their theoretical economic interests, without regard to libraries traditional functions and the greater public good.

      Was it fair use in the past to redistribute reprints/format-conversions of works without the copyright holders consent?

      I agree that copyright law sucks… but that’s why it needs to change so it actually serves “the greater public good”. The judiciary system is not the right place to advocate for that (they don’t make the law, just interpret it), so I don’t really think there’s much hope in them winning this. Sadly.

    • @chiliedogg@lemmy.world
      1•6 months ago

      Their counter-argument isn’t a legal argument. They’re saying they did it because they think the publishers aren’t being fair.

      And they’re talking mostly about format-conversion, which isn’t the problem here.

      You can absolutely make format conversions to digital for archival purposes. What you cannot do is them make a bunch of copies and give them away for free simultaneous use. That is not fair use. That’s 100% piracy.

      The CDL was built specifically to ensure that only one digital copy was on loan for each owned copy of the material because the IA absolutely knew that was the law.