Let me guess, as an average lemmy user the chances are pretty high you are a white male in early adulthood, probably living off a very concerning diet but not gaining weight because of some genetical inability to build up fat.
Like, thats me, but I am aware of it. People can get fat if they eat as much as I do, which is not even much. Get a hold of your privileges dude.
Then its up to those people to fucking get out of their asses and exercise. It’s one thing to be fat because of a health issue like hypothyroidism, and a whole different thing to choose being fat. In either case, you can’t really demand people to think an unhealthy, droopy and blobby body is beautiful, all you can ask is for people to not be rude about it.
Here’s a very apt comparison: I suffer from hyperhidrosis, a condition which makes me sweat 100% of the time regarless of temperature. Which do you think more reasonable: that I wear deodorant, refresh myself and shower often; or that I demand people to live with and enjoy my body odour?
Mind sending one? Way I’ve understood it, a calorie deficit is the major thing you need to lose fat consistently. Obviously don’t overdo it, obviously exercise as well, and some things like protein are better than others. At the end of the day though, you work on a deficit and you’ll lose fat, have an excess and you won’t
Edit: I did not clearly represent my point. I meant that even overweight people without physical health issues are likely dealing with some unresolved mental health issues as well. And I say that sympathetically.
That’s not what I meant. I understand what hypohyroidism is. I just meant overweight people without something physical like that are probably going through something mentally. Is that controversial?
I’m actually a 31 year old female living together with my bf and cat. I’m going to the gym about 2 to 3 times a week since a few months. My bmi at this moment is 24.1 which is still quite high but I’m getting there.
All I did was say fat. If that offended you, go to the gym.
I agree about BMI often being a bad measurement. Even my own doctors ignore it on me because my BMI is well into the obese range and yet every other measurement of health is in the healthy range, most well into it. My body fat for instance is just below 30%, which is perfectly healthy for a woman. My waist line is well into healthy range as well. Additionally, all my tests such as blood tests come back more than healthy and show that I’m not at risk for any obesity related conditions. Of course, I don’t look like the standard “healthy” body most people imagine a woman should have. I would look fat to anyone who doesn’t know the full picture.
That’s why I always hated that whole thing people say that “If you’re BMI is high and you’re still healthy it’ll be really obvious.” People just assume that high BMI and healthy means muscular, when you can have a normal body fat percentage as well as other measurements but still have a high BMI.
This is even ignoring the fact that even when you are genuinely obese and unhealthy, it often stems from body image issues in the first place. The same way a depressed person often goes “I’m doing everything wrong anyway so why bother even trying?” A fat person often is having the struggle of “I’m ugly anyway so why even bother trying to be pretty and healthy? Healthy just means I gotta live longer being ugly.” That’s why berating people for being fat usually doesn’t work. It just makes them feel worse and reinforces that idea they already have that they’re too ugly to bother. Sure, some people it might kick into gear to try their best to lose weight to prove they’re not ugly, but that’s the difference between somebody who still has hope and somebody that’s already lost it all.
Yep agreed. I had a laugh when we got our Wii sports, and the weigh-in made my Mii fat, which didn’t represent my shape. But a bad UX from Nintendo on that.
Strolling through college campus unaccompanied as I often do. Not worried about being harassed or raped because I am a man. See group of young ladies struggling to set up a folding table. Two strong women have extended the legs and are trying to flip the table upright. I approach them uninvited and say hello. One flees, triggered. “let me help with that girls” I easily flip the table upright with… my masculine strength. Now upright, I can see the sign taped to the table top. FEMINIST BAKESALE. I give a low-pitched chuckle with my testosterone privileged vocal cords. “So you girls have been busy in the kitchen, what did you bake?” One strong woman stands with a box to rest on the table. Her eyes are welled with tears at the oppression she is suffering. “C-cupcakes” - “I love cupcakes, let me see what you have there” I reach my phallic hand over and open the virginal box this poor woman is holding. My male gaze objectifies the cupcakes. “Oh those look good. How much?” Another strong woman speaks up, images of Susan B Anthony flash in her head. “They’re a dollar for men because of the corrupt patria–” I stop her short in a textbook case of verbal rape. “That sounds fine. Give me the whole box.” I pull out a capitalist paper bill with the image of a Cis White Male Slaveowner on it. The strong woman before me whimpers in psychic pain as I hand the bill to her, she has been reduced to a slave – nay – a commodity. “Thank you” she says meekly, feeling violated. I give a sensual grunt as I bite into one of the sweet, moist cupcakes. “Mmmm… It was my privilege.”
Let me guess, as an average lemmy user the chances are pretty high you are a white male in early adulthood, probably living off a very concerning diet but not gaining weight because of some genetical inability to build up fat.
Like, thats me, but I am aware of it. People can get fat if they eat as much as I do, which is not even much. Get a hold of your privileges dude.
Then its up to those people to fucking get out of their asses and exercise. It’s one thing to be fat because of a health issue like hypothyroidism, and a whole different thing to choose being fat. In either case, you can’t really demand people to think an unhealthy, droopy and blobby body is beautiful, all you can ask is for people to not be rude about it.
Here’s a very apt comparison: I suffer from hyperhidrosis, a condition which makes me sweat 100% of the time regarless of temperature. Which do you think more reasonable: that I wear deodorant, refresh myself and shower often; or that I demand people to live with and enjoy my body odour?
Diet is the major part of it, you don’t burn a ton or calories through exercise to be honest. You need to be working from a deficit to get anywhere
It’s objectively more effective to exercise more than to eat less. There are countless studies on the subject.
Mind sending one? Way I’ve understood it, a calorie deficit is the major thing you need to lose fat consistently. Obviously don’t overdo it, obviously exercise as well, and some things like protein are better than others. At the end of the day though, you work on a deficit and you’ll lose fat, have an excess and you won’t
I’d argue it’s a mental health issue.
Edit: I did not clearly represent my point. I meant that even overweight people without physical health issues are likely dealing with some unresolved mental health issues as well. And I say that sympathetically.
yup, sounds very psychological to me
also like… a mental health issue is also a health issue?
That’s not what I meant. I understand what hypohyroidism is. I just meant overweight people without something physical like that are probably going through something mentally. Is that controversial?
it’s not, but that’s not the way you phrased it originally
Yeah, I see how that could have been unclear, sorry. I wasn’t intending to dispute the quoted portion, but to expand on it.
okay yeah sorry then, guess this whole thread got me a bit worked up lol
I mean the person in the pic is not fat. That is the point.
Incorrect
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They display all classic traits of obesity
I’m actually a 31 year old female living together with my bf and cat. I’m going to the gym about 2 to 3 times a week since a few months. My bmi at this moment is 24.1 which is still quite high but I’m getting there.
All I did was say fat. If that offended you, go to the gym.
BMI is kinda bogus, it doean’t take into account muscle vs fat. At peak working out with small waist, but visible muscle mass my chart BMI was Obese
I agree about BMI often being a bad measurement. Even my own doctors ignore it on me because my BMI is well into the obese range and yet every other measurement of health is in the healthy range, most well into it. My body fat for instance is just below 30%, which is perfectly healthy for a woman. My waist line is well into healthy range as well. Additionally, all my tests such as blood tests come back more than healthy and show that I’m not at risk for any obesity related conditions. Of course, I don’t look like the standard “healthy” body most people imagine a woman should have. I would look fat to anyone who doesn’t know the full picture.
That’s why I always hated that whole thing people say that “If you’re BMI is high and you’re still healthy it’ll be really obvious.” People just assume that high BMI and healthy means muscular, when you can have a normal body fat percentage as well as other measurements but still have a high BMI.
This is even ignoring the fact that even when you are genuinely obese and unhealthy, it often stems from body image issues in the first place. The same way a depressed person often goes “I’m doing everything wrong anyway so why bother even trying?” A fat person often is having the struggle of “I’m ugly anyway so why even bother trying to be pretty and healthy? Healthy just means I gotta live longer being ugly.” That’s why berating people for being fat usually doesn’t work. It just makes them feel worse and reinforces that idea they already have that they’re too ugly to bother. Sure, some people it might kick into gear to try their best to lose weight to prove they’re not ugly, but that’s the difference between somebody who still has hope and somebody that’s already lost it all.
Yep agreed. I had a laugh when we got our Wii sports, and the weigh-in made my Mii fat, which didn’t represent my shape. But a bad UX from Nintendo on that.
Haha okay sorry if that comment was mean. I am exactly that type of person I described
Haha don’t worry about it. It’s the internet!
True
This person gets it
Strolling through college campus unaccompanied as I often do. Not worried about being harassed or raped because I am a man. See group of young ladies struggling to set up a folding table. Two strong women have extended the legs and are trying to flip the table upright. I approach them uninvited and say hello. One flees, triggered. “let me help with that girls” I easily flip the table upright with… my masculine strength. Now upright, I can see the sign taped to the table top. FEMINIST BAKESALE. I give a low-pitched chuckle with my testosterone privileged vocal cords. “So you girls have been busy in the kitchen, what did you bake?” One strong woman stands with a box to rest on the table. Her eyes are welled with tears at the oppression she is suffering. “C-cupcakes” - “I love cupcakes, let me see what you have there” I reach my phallic hand over and open the virginal box this poor woman is holding. My male gaze objectifies the cupcakes. “Oh those look good. How much?” Another strong woman speaks up, images of Susan B Anthony flash in her head. “They’re a dollar for men because of the corrupt patria–” I stop her short in a textbook case of verbal rape. “That sounds fine. Give me the whole box.” I pull out a capitalist paper bill with the image of a Cis White Male Slaveowner on it. The strong woman before me whimpers in psychic pain as I hand the bill to her, she has been reduced to a slave – nay – a commodity. “Thank you” she says meekly, feeling violated. I give a sensual grunt as I bite into one of the sweet, moist cupcakes. “Mmmm… It was my privilege.”
No, I’m getting fat. Slowly, and not very, but I need to start running again. Geneticals be damned.
Hahahaha, I love how the OP just smacked your little made up anecdote down