We get it, it hit 4%

kryllic · 9 months ago

We get it, it hit 4%

@ulterno · 8 months ago

We have the same point.

Bad IT will destroy both Win and Linux systems
People on Lemmy are much less likely to be fans of either OS
Advanced stuff can be done better using scripting languages and depending upon the case, it’s fine to not give a -ive point to the OS for not implementing advanced stuff in GUI
Users who don’t try to understand what’s going on before pressing Next or Y or Enter will mess up stuff.

In fact, I was starting to learn PowerShell back when I decided to jump to Linux.

There are a few things I have to differ about:

The Win PCs at my previous workplace were pretty standardised. They were all same models, bought in batches with contracts with the OEMs. Also, the Win PCs had better H/W 7th gen i7s vs the makeshift Ubuntu setup I had made with a 7th gen i5 with similar RAM packages.
Even though I give a lot of flak to GNOME, it still worked better than said Windows setups.
A laptop of mine (Win 10) that was going bad fast, due to inadequate cooling, was fixed using Manjaro KDE, which if you try yourself, will realise is actually uselessly pretty heavy on resources due to extra configurations (as kompared to stock KDE). Despite that, I managed to go for higher workloads than Win on that dying laptop. (mainly using Office programs and Web browsers).
Similarly, I am also able to run KDE Plasma on my Core 2 Quad, which, even though is slow (due to high load on Secondary Memory), still managed to be as good as Windows 7, if not better, at basic tasks.

Coming back to the original topic:
My main point is that the main thing that is going for Windows, is not any sort of Objectively Higher Quality design, but it’s current popularity. Similar points for Adobe software and MS Office.

On the other hand, Autodesk software for Engineering CAD does have a Objective upper hand, which cannot be trumped by just people one day deciding to shift to FOSS.

@TCB13@lemmy.world · 8 months ago

My main point is that the main thing that is going for Windows, is not any sort of Objectively Higher Quality design,

That’s my original point: Windows isn’t objectively better but is isn’t as bad as people paint most of the time.

but it’s current popularity. Similar points for Adobe software and MS Office. On the other hand, Autodesk software for Engineering CAD does have a Objective upper hand, which cannot be trumped by just people one day deciding to shift to FOSS.

What makes Windows win over the market effectively is 1) popularity driven by more users, 2) specialized software that you can’t find for Linux and 3) a development ecosystem that’s hard to replicate elsewhere.

But… there are a lot of industry specific use cases where Adobe and MS Office still have the upper hand. We can’t for, instance, get a replacement Office with an MS Project that does all the cool things between it, Excel and Dynamics NAV to provider a solution for project management across an entire business. After all we’re talking about a cross-application solution that is capable of going from checklists, reports, Gantt and Kanban to feeding information in an out the ERP taking data from accounting, RH, manufacturing, logistics to through sales. We can try (and I would like to see it that way) to replicate it with other tools but the level of pain and development time is way too big.

@ulterno · 8 months ago

Oh yeah.
I almost forgot about MS Project.

There was once a time I looked for an alternative to Project. Then I found one (probably used it a bit) and forgot. I think the alt wasn’t as fully featured as MS Project and that gives MS Office a big win.

Dynamics NAV

No idea, never used it. No comments.