• @EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world
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    this software isn’t available in the selection that Fedora/Ubuntu/Mint/whatever

    My man, those repos are vast as shit. The only time you will run into this situation is either if you’re using obscure software (that most newbies won’t use, and then again if you can’t Google a few things you shouldn’t be using obscure software) or stuff that isn’t supported on linux at all.

    limiting user choice

    We aren’t limiting user’s choice. You can do literally everything you want on Linux, just need to know how. You need to know how to do stuff in other OSes too btw, but doesn’t mean they will let you do everything.

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      -41 year ago

      Those repos are nowhere near vast as shit. It’s trivial to find software that isn’t one or more of them, and quite often what is there isn’t remotely a recent version.

      Removing the ability to install .debs is literally limiting user choice and walling things off so the user doesn’t hurt themselves, the same shit that every fucking Linux knob has been squealing about Windows and MacOS doing for decades.

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        This shows to me that you either didn’t use Linux a lot or don’t understand it.

        quite often what is there isn’t remotely a recent version.

        That is cause you’re using a stable release distro. If you wanted up to date packages you wouldn’t use something based on Debian stable but either a rolling release or semi-rolling like Fedora. Or Flatpaks, appimages, and the many other options you have. Again, not hard stuff to figure out if you are willing to learn. User’s fault.

        Removing the ability to install .debs

        Nobody is doing that, except maybe Ubuntu, you just need to learn how to do it. And if your distro does it, well wouldn’t you know it there 100000 distros more you can choose. Again if you’re looking for .debs first of all you’re not getting something different than what you’re getting on the official repo, and secondly you’re almost certainly looking for software that is lesser known or has bad support for Linux. In 2023 almost everything someone needs is in the repos of distros like Mint and Debian. Certainly everything for the type of user that is too lazy to Google anything.

        • hiddengoat
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          That is cause you’re using a stable release distro.

          No. That’s because the latest version of the software has some incompatibility with the distro that the distro devs can’t be arsed to fix. If you’re not aware of how often this happens then YOU are the one that clearly doesn’t actually use Linux on a daily basis.

          Oh look, I can make blind assertions about your lack of knowledge too.

          Nobody is doing that, except maybe Ubuntu

          WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU ILLITERATE COW-FELLATER?

          well wouldn’t you know it there 100000 distros more you can choose

          Yeah, sure, just completely reinstall your entire system because one fucking dev doesn’t like having to deal with users installing .deb files. Goddamn Linux apologists are morons sometimes. It’s like you’ve never actually used a computer you HAVE to use. They’re just your masturbation tools and nothing more.

          lesser known or has bad support for Linux.

          So the majority of software, you mean. Have you even fucking been to github.com? Do you think every one of those programs is in a repository? DO YOU FUCKING KNOW HOW ANYTHING WORKS OUTSIDE OF YOUR PRECIOUS WALLED PACKAGE MANAGER GARDEN?

          In 2023 almost everything someone needs is in the repos of distros like Mint and Debian.

          Says you, and who the fuck are you besides nobody?

          Certainly everything for the type of user that is too lazy to Google anything.

          Again, a cunt blaming the user for a distro removing options. Fuck off.

          • Helix 🧬
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            I see you’re angry, but it makes you look bad if you let it out on others. Can’t you just discuss this in a civilised manner? I get that you’re edgy and think you’re smarter than the rest of the people, but you’re literally here to complain about a pretty newbie thing to do, so I’d refrain from telling others they’re illiterate.

            You don’t need to reinstall your distribution if you want to install DEB files, you just need to find a way that is not broken. Although I’d really recommend reinstalling another distribution if you’re using Ubuntu because they keep doing questionable decisions.

            I don’t know what to respond to the rest of your angry rant because it doesn’t contain substance I would be able to respond to. Looking at your other posts it’s probably not worth engaging with you anyway since you’re digressing into angry rants 80% of the time. Hope you can prove me wrong.

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            That’s because the latest version of the software has some incompatibility with the distro that the distro devs can’t be arsed to fix.

            You are using a stable release distro (like ubuntu) and expecting it to act like a rolling release and then get surprised when it doesn’t act like one. Again, if you don’t know what you’re doing and your tools, it ain’t the tool’s fault if shit ain’t working the way you expect it to.

            If you’re not aware of how often this happens then YOU are the one that clearly doesn’t actually use Linux on a daily basis.

            I have been using Linux on a daily basis for years, from mint to arch, and I can tell you haven’t, or more likely haven’t looked up how ot works, by how easily resolved the problems you mentioned would be of you just took the time to Google and inform yourself a bit on the tool you want to use.

            WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU ILLITERATE COW-FELLATER?

            You’re the one here who keeps saying Linux sucks because of an Ubuntu-only problem and then complaining about it when people rightly inform you that you can always choose another option that doesn’t have the problem or do things differently to achieve the same result.

            completely reinstall your entire system because one fucking dev doesn’t like having to deal with users installing .deb files.

            Takes 15 minutes or less. And if you don’t want to do that you can do something else like flatpaks, learning how to do what you’re trying to do with the terminal or another way. You have plenty of choice, you just need to stop baby raging, Google a bit and fox your issue.

            Says you, and who the fuck are you besides nobody?

            I can say the exact same response to you saying the Mint repos are small. I am someone who used mint for about 2 years before switching off of it and know people who have used it for as long as it exists and never had to install programs that weren’t some very uncommon/specialized ones from outside the package manager.

            Again, a cunt blaming the user for a distro removing options

            The distro removing an option is shitty but if you don’t want to switch to a different distro or do the necessary work to fix it then it is your fault when the problem isn’t magically fixed. This isn’t proprietary shit, you don’t have to beg the company overlord to fix it for you (if they want). Open the browser, look for a solution to your problem that you like, and solve the issue.