The creators of SponsorBlock did it again, now we can crowdsource better titles and thumbnails as well. I just tried it with LinusTechTips who is a worst offender when it comes to clickbait and its really great.
Compare without DeArrow
and with the extension
I’ve already noticed a couple videos where the corrected title made me more interested in the video than the clickbait title. Hope this extension takes off!
That’s how it is most of the time for me. I unsubbed from LTT because their clickbaity videos made it hard for me to see what I’m interested in. With this extension I might actually start watching their stuff again.
I don’t see where I can submit titles on a video page?
For SponsorBlock there’s a button in the video player toolbar.
The demo video shows a button on the video description title. But I don’t see one (on a video that has no DeArrow data yet).
Are submissions not open yet?
/edit: Since my comment I’ve seen it on video pages a while later. Dunno if it was a technical issue, delay, account moderation, or video / channel specific or what.
This is indeed just a display bug of the button not showing up> who
This extension is free, forever, for anyone who installs it during the beta. Yes, that means there will be a paywall for new users only in the future, but I promise that there will still be a way to for people to get free access. Of course the extension will always remain fully open source, with a publicly downloadable database, just like SponsorBlock.
I’m a bit confused what this means / will mean. A paywall but also still alternative free access?
The plan for a alternative free access will most likely involve some form of waiting period or queue plus a sharing system. The code will also remain open source meaning there will always be a way :P
Where are you quoting this from? I could not find any information about a paywall.
mh, I can’t find it anymore either. Pretty sure it was on the website, on the main page. Maybe it changed? Maybe it’s now considered t obe out of beta?
I’m seeing it right now on the extension’s welcoming page right after install
Yes, I also found it here. I have asked the developers for clarification.
I was also very unnerved to see this pop up for me today. Considering the extension is also basically just a ripoff of Clickbait Remover for Youtube, this really rubs me the wrong way.
DeArrow is in no way meant to be a rip off of “clickbait remover”. It uses a completely different methods to retrieve thumbnails, using a thumbnail generation system instead of relying on “auto generated” thumbnails by YouTube.
You are right though that it is kind of made as that extension taken to the extreme.
I’d also like to clarify that the developer of “clickbait remover” contacted me and is very happy about my work. They also wished me luck on my soft-paywall plan.
Hi. What is the monetization plan for this addon exactly, and how much is it going to cost? If the addon is open source and the API hits are free, where does my money come in?
Clickbait has this singular capacity to make one feel treated as a simple primate. Such a relieving comparison.
Honestly I’d probably be the type to be like “yeah I hate click bait!” Download this, and then stop watching videos entirely because they all look really boring
That’s a win if you ask me.
Holy shit! This is amazing! But how will I ever know what’s REALLY IMPORTANT without ALL CAPS and a shitton of BANGS?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Don’t forget the USELESS FUCKING ARROWS.
Unless it’s pointing to a red circle.
If this ever gets ported for NewPipe and/or LibreTube it’ll be sensational
The fact that it exists makes me happy :]
I’m loving this and have contributed a bunch already, but one problem I’m noticing is people labeling things “reviews” on videos that are definitely not reviews, like impressions videos or unboxings.
The removal of the custom thumbnail is refreshing. No more wired reactions with an arrow pointing at something.
I’m going to give this a try. The sponsorblock people have great ideas!
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There’s unfortunelately a good reason for them to keep doing it; it works
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Exactly. I watch a lot of YouTubers who don’t really like having to make clickbait, but it’s the algorithm that promotes it, so they need to conform to what works.
After Mastodon and Lemmy I think need a federated youtube alternative now too. Yes, I know PeerTube exists, I just need it to get a nice boost in attention just like the other got.
Video hosting is way more resource intensive (and therefore expensive) than text and even the most image filled of Lemmy communities
I know. They use peer-to-peer, hence the name PeerTube, that means while you are watching a video, you also upload that video for others to see. Granted the concept falls flat with so little users as there is never another person watching the exact same video at the exact same point it time, but in theory it should scale up.
I think we could also have a standalone desktop application to watch and seed. In the browser you stop seeding as soon as you close the tab, but with the desktop application you could allow for further seeding. People who want to keep the platform alive could practically donate their upstream traffic. I would.
I wish people would use it more cause I like the concept a lot.I assume that in the short term transcoding is also going to become an issue. Most fedi servers are being hosted on cloud providers like Hetzner, DO, Linode, etc. who do not have any kind of encoding hardware, and modern codecs like VP9 or god forbid AV1 are horribly slow to encode without HW acceleration.
I know there are several platforms that do offer it (Amazon and Google do AFAIK) but those can still get pretty expensive, and there is a sizeable chunk of people here who may not want their content to reach Amazon or Google.
The concept still works with almost no users. If you’re the only one watching a video, the original host is more than capable of serving it to you and so no need for extra peers ;).
Being able to handle a small amount of users isn’t the problem, it’s once a lot of users suddenly join in that the system would collapse without the peer functionality.
Also, peer tube is not fully decentralized. All videos need to be stored on an instance (similar to torrent seedboxes) so there will always be at least one direct source available. So I don’t think that standalone app as you describe is needed. (That would be interesting though in a fully decentralized model, without any instances but all videos just floating between peers. But that would have the danger of creating dead videos similar to dead torrents)
I tried it. It works well. But, I don’t think I will use it, because I usually know YouTubers to avoid when it comes to clickbaiting. Looking at you, Scotty Kilmer. :)
That seems cool. I’ll definitely try that out, thanks for sharing!
Already using sponsor block and that saved me quite a bit of time!
Feels like we’re back on youtube in its early form, more organic. great idea i’m downloading it
If I still used YT’s main front-end, this would’ve been great.
SponsorBlock has been added to alternative frontends as well, so there is a good chance DeArrow will be ported.
