Lemmy is a clean slate. Let’s leave the Android/iOS butthurt shit on Reddit for as long as we can.
Please, I’m iOS user but I enjoy reading advances of android because both systems push each other to be better. We don’t need toxic BS here too.
Exactly. I use both along with macOS, Windows, Linux. All have their pros and cons and all work well. Most of the rant comments are just BS.
I’ve had bot android and iOS over the years. Love them both for their own reasons. Currently rocking a pixel 7.
Interesting, so windows vs mac os didn’t cause a flame war but Android vs IOS does.
Because nobody has windows user as a core part of their identity.
Possibly because the cost for entry to macOS is higher than with iOS. Most people are able to run a Windows computer at very little cost, and will never have any interaction with a Mac. Meanwhile, iPhones and Android phones are (broadly) on a par in terms of cost.
I will say though, speaking as someone who’s used Macs since 2007, as much as I’m no fan of how Windows works, I won’t give anyone shit for doing so. But I used to get quite a bit of vitriol for my choice of computer.
Many people just have phones now.
It’s always interesting to see people turn something as universal as a phone into a competition.
If you’re willing to spend the money, you can make yourself look silly by spending thousands on either one.
Phones have become such a staple of modern existence, it’s about the same as wearing shoes.
Shit. I just realized they turn shoes into that, too
Sneakerheads are a whole different breed
I was gonna comment that this exact post was made a few days ago with the only difference being Mac vs Windows instead. Seems you’re already aware, and you’re just farming. Nice.
the windows vs mac shit is also toxic nonsense and you know it.
Missleading, actually. Too many times werethere apps that failed to install because they were too old, even though there were some that worked. There’s the opposite problem though, with some old phones that have old android versions, some apps are too new to install. iOS gets frequent updates so this isn’t much of an issue, except if your device is way, way too old. I’m an avid android supporter, and I’ve never had an iOS device myself cause I detest it for other reasons, but I’ve gotta say both platforms are equally problematic on this regard. iOS has no backwards compatibility, android has no forwards compatibility.
I used an apple phone for the first time at work, they gave us apple phones.
I was blown away when I realized you can’t just dump any old file on it, because I’m used to plugging in my android phone and throwing on some files like it’s any other removable storage. Not so with apple phones, incredibly limited.
See, I used to flash firmware for copy machines from my phone. Like if I went out to a site and didn’t prepare firmware before going I could just download it on my phone and flash from that.
The apple phone couldn’t do a bunch of stuff that I always thought was standard smartphone things. Also couldn’t display cell and wifi reception in decibels, and I used to do informal site surveys with my phone. Nope, apple can’t do that either, “bars” aren’t a good metric to wrote down.
That thing was about damn useless except to be used as a phone and an mp3 player.
I recently decided to jailbreak my ipod touch. The options are so fucking sketch it felt extremely gross. And thats coming from an android user. You know you are in best hands if the jailbreaking software link their mixtape.
Just installed the original flappy bird last week on my A54 and it’s working great.
The original flappy bird doesn’t exist in the playstores anymore since 2014. How could you install it?
APK Mirror that’s what I usually use for apps that are gone from the play store, like Stranger Things: 1984, and Kung Fury games.
The only time I “pirate”
Ohh i remember. Didnt the dev decide that he wasnt gonna support their users becoming addicted or sth?
Iirc the 2nd place flappy bird world champion killed the 1st place flappy bird world champion because he was mad at him for being better.
Probably found the apk somewhere online.
Can you install this IPA?
Apple: Noooo! You have to install apps from my App Store!
Unless of course, you pay $100 and call yourself a developer
reminds me of that time i installed a really old version of opera on my android tablet
Android removed 32 bit support in the newest version. Maybe see what the compatibility is after that releases
For most apps, this doesn’t matter at all. The vast majority of Android apps are fully Java/Kotlin, which is architecture-agnostic.
It’s only when you need to use C libraries where architecture matters, and most things using C libraries are games, which already target 64-bit.
This man APKs.
Hopefully they it’s like Windows with 64bit and 32bit support
I mean Android de facto is the Windows of mobile phones
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Okay - who left the keyboard open to the kids?
Seriously, can we just stop the brand warefare? Just buy what you want. I’ve plenty of old apps that just work. The only real barrier was moving from 32 bits to 64, and that was like what…iOS 6 or 7?
If the devs update the app, then there’s no company issues. If they abandon it, that’s on them. Not sure what it is you’re actually arguing for.
Yes, please, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! I can’t hack this brand war shit anymore.
I once bought a load of Lego games on my iPhone 3GS, mostly for my kid to play, but with a mind to play them myself when I got a chance.
Then iPhone switched over to 64 bit, and those games didn’t. Then the games got re-released in 64 bit, as a free download for the first level, with an in-app purchase to unlock the rest of the game. A game I’d already paid for on that platform, that I could no longer play.
That still pisses me off.
That’s on the game devs, not Apple. I’ve gotten plenty of updates from 32-to-64 bits.
Not true. A lot of ioa devices can’t be updated so you can’t get the updated app even if it existed at one point.
Example you have an ipad mini running iOS 12. There were a lot of apps compatible with that version back then but they get pulled from the store so people are artificially fucked and need to buy a new device.
It’s not the same.
That makes no sense…think again; who’s at fault for any of this? Perhaps the devs??
No they have no control why a devices gets locked to a lower software version. Apple decides that.
Yeah Android CAN run the app if you have the APK. But also the play store won’t let you if the dev hasn’t updated the app in a couple of years. Older games are especially bad.
Who said anything about using playstore?
Although Android is made by Google, it is after all cousin-brother of Linux with the same advantages
If it wasn’t for locked devices and proprietary drivers, it would be a nice experience, very close to linux.
If you have root access it isn’t a problem, then you can use alternatives, like GrapheneOS, Ubuntu Touch, CalyxOS or similar. The only problem is if you need an official app, since they are usually only available for Android or iOS. Then the only are Replicant or LinageOS, these are “degoogled” Android forks
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Android and iOS are both abysmal.
Damn right!
- Sent from Jerboa on Blackberry
This is funny considering Android 14 may be sunsetting support for 32-bit apps in favor of exclusive 64-bit apps, which will likely break a lot of backward compatability. Whoopsie doodles.
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Not true, the Pixel 7 has already removed 32-bit support. It’s a 64-bit exclusive OS and won’t let you sideload 32-bit apps.
Backwards compatibility is a double-edged sword. It’s cool that you can run an apk from 10 years ago but there should be a point where you say that’s enough and drop support from them. Looking at Windows.
Not really. And what so you mean look at windows? You mean the most popular desktop os? Yeah I’m looking…
We have tons of problems today due to overextenring backwards compatibility to a point in which it just crates more tech debt than the benefits it brings. Windows and X11 are great examples, at least Windows is still being maintained.
And than there is netflix, which refuses to run on android phones with an unlocked bootloader, not even using a custom ROM, just an unlocked bootloader