Holy shit, teacher suicides? What the fuck
I’m honestly surprised it’s not more common. Especially in the US. I see nothing but horror stories from teachers about how uncontrollable kids have gotten in recent years. Plus videos of teachers being attacked by their students, or just straight to getting shot by them.
This generation of kids is causing so much trauma for teachers these days, it’s insane.
The issue stems from the generation of the parents, the children are a symptom of their environment.
Or kids being raised on the internet. Shit heads teaching kids to behave like shit heads.
Yeah. A lot of the shitty parents had kids at a very young age this generation and we’re seeing the repercussions of that.
You need to be able to take care of yourself before you can take care of someone else.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing more kids raised by their grandparents because their actual parents are shit.
Is this based on actual statistics of any kind, or just your ass?
I’d actually hazard a guess that on average, parents are older these days. I don’t think the issue is really young parents, it’s that parents don’t discipline now. They just shove a screen in front of their kid instead of having a meaningful conversation. Parents now were raised with somewhat instant gratification and it’s even worse with their kids.
What?
People used to have children at 18 (or earlier), most people now are waiting until their 30s if at all.
People have never had kids later than this generation.
My GF’s daughter is asking some of her teachers if she can put a voice recorder up front to record the teacher so she could learn. Because the students talk to each other over the teachers and literally curse out the teachers when they try to maintain order. I was shocked - 30 years ago, sure there were a couple of bad apples in some classes, but they’d get ejected if they failed to shut the fuck up after being told to shut the fuck up.
I personally think teachers in that environment should work together and open up their own schools.
How does that solve the problem with unruly children? It just puts them in a new school with more liability than when they were just teachers.
Sorry, I meant to imply that this school run by them would have the authority to pick and choose who gets to attend.
The unruly children would simply be barred.
Ehhh, there’s a lot of liability in picking a choosing who can attend. Ripe for a discrimination lawsuit.
Private schools can’t discriminate against protected classes but they can ABSOLUTELY use behavior as selection criteria. That said, sometimes what it takes is a totally different approach to discipline to reach “problem students,” approaches that aren’t often available in the public school context. Some respond well to iron-fisted authority, some respond well to restorative practices and circles, etc., while some need a ton of personal attention. Some “problem students” have problem parents, some don’t. It’s a shame that our public education system is as underfunded as it is, that school boards are political, that our public system is, by-and-large, one-size fits all. Charter schools and magnet schools provide some free public alternatives, but most progressives label them as destroying public school funding (at least, until they realize, like I did, that where I live, the standard public school system is a political shitshow and that sending my kid there would lead to conservative indoctrination). My local charter is chock full of incredibly passionate teachers that have an expansive view of the world. Of course I’d sign my kid up for their lottery.
They do. They’re called Charter Schools, and letting folks online know that you’re going to send your kid to one is a great way to get downvoted. I have no interest in sending my kid to a rural public school system that is leading the charge against “woke,” whatever that is.
But teachers are now demanding better protection for themselves amid growing outrage about teaching staff being mistreated, including being accused of child abuse for disciplining students.
If the system is anything like it was 15 years ago, those accusations are warranted. I know several people who taught in Korea and they were pretty appalled at how abusive many teachers were.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Teachers in South Korea have staged a mass walkout in protest at widespread harassment by overbearing parents and unruly students, which has led to some staff taking their own lives.
But teachers are now demanding better protection for themselves amid growing outrage about teaching staff being mistreated, including being accused of child abuse for disciplining students.
Many teachers took leave to attend the protests on Monday and some schools were reportedly temporarily closed, despite authorities declaring their actions illegal and threatening legal consequences.
She was found dead at her school in Seoul in an apparent suicide after reportedly expressing anxiety over complaints from abusive parents.
As of June, 100 schoolteachers had died by suicide in South Korea since 2018 – 57 of them taught at elementary schools, according to government data.
President Yoon Suk Yeol ordered officials to “deeply bear in mind” the teachers’ protests and to do their utmost to protect their rights.
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So, legitimate question. Do you think that children learn nothing of any importance whatsoever in any public grade school? It’s absolutely ridiculous to think that public schooling is first and foremost babysitting because we don’t have child labor laws. What in the world would adults be doing at 18 if there wasn’t any schooling kindergarten through 12th grade? How, pray tell, would they be ready for a vocational school or college or any secondary school really without k-12? Would their parents be required to stay home and teach them?
Sure, schooling doesn’t seem to teach people much to get them ready for the world anymore, but I hardly think that’s because school is primarily babysitting. You obviously have an incredibly low opinion of teachers if you really think that’s why they exist. The lack of relevance of grade school seems to be more because of the hype over college and the tendency of companies to require more and more education for a job. Lack vocational classes in high school plays into that, too, but cutting them likely had to do more with teaching to a test and getting rid of things that “didn’t matter”.
Despite that you may think people would figure out how to write, read, do basic math, understand science theory, learn geography, learn civics, analyze fiction and nonfiction works, learn higher levels of math and science, learn subsequent languages, oh and socialize because that really is a very important part of schooling, without school at all, people wouldn’t… There’s a ton of basic knowledge you need to survive in this world. Maybe you think people will just absorb it through osmosis, but that’s not really how that works.
Teachers are important. Period. Their job is made difficult by those who think they have the right to micromanage the curriculum. Their job is made difficult by being paid or fired for students who pass or fail a test. Teachers, on the whole, are excellent, wonderful people. They don’t need this belittling nonsense.
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. You’re 100% correct.
I haven’t even read the whole thing yet, but damn! You have a brain! I came here ready to take a dump on someone, but you… Make… Sense?? This does not compute. I gotta go somewhere else to empty my bowls. Good job.
