I believe the community had expressed a lot of valuable ideas here, so I will keep the post. But I am locking the thread because it’s just not information given in good faith. That’s not to say that the points are all wrong, these can be debated. And we did debate. But the infographic itself is border to being just propaganda against a distro that serves well to a lot of users (this is a fact! even if me or you think those users could be served better.)
automatically attaching snaps to apt is pretty much the one reason why I’ll never use Ubuntu. and now I find out here that they put damn ads in the terminal for “Ubuntu Pro”? oh get fucked Canonical.
Friends don’t let Friends install Ubuntu.
My main home server runs Ubuntu - I installed it 15-20 years ago and it’s grown into a monster. I’ve been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian. Have to up the priority of that project.
Debian is so nice as a server OS. It’s also a great alternative for WSL if you’re forced to use a Windows computer.
I already run Debian on my desktop and 3 other small servers. I just haven’t moved over my main one yet because of the complexity, and procrastination.
An old PC of mine as been promoted to becoming my first personal server ever and I went for Debian without UI. I’ve dealt with Ubuntu servers at work for a while. For me Debian felt so incredibly lightweight yet so familiar. I heartily recommend the move for a home server.
I’ve been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian
This works much better if you document into an Ansible playbook. Although some tasks will probably have to be adjusted between the distros.
And they’ve tied the dependency tree together such that you can’t disable them without entirely breaking updates.
Even Microsoft hasn’t put ads in the terminal I think.
Shh, don’t give them ideas 🙏
I left Ubuntu some years ago because I wanted apt install a package and it got hijacked by snaps without warning.
I left when they dropped Gnome 2 for Unity. I’ve been using Mint (with Cinnamon) ever since.
Compared to what’s going on on Windows these are such non issues, and yet people are so dramatic about it. I installed Kubuntu almost 15 years ago and I’m on the same install still (going through several PCs with the same disk/image). Disabling snap took me 5 minutes many years ago and was never an issue, another 2 minutes for disabling the Ubuntu Pro message.
Would it be better if these didn’t exist? Of course. But when comparing distros, this wouldn’t even be worth putting on a list of pros and cons. Is another distro better for your needs? Great. Is Ubuntu better for your needs? Also great, and surely if it is, then it taking 7 minutes longer to setup is not even a factor worth considering?
If a friend had needs that I know Ubuntu fits best, I wouldn’t “not let them do it” for some ideological reasons, I’d just tell them to disable snap if they are not aware of it.
This is the silly distro infighting that makes people avoid Linux.
“Friends don’t let friends install hyped flavor of the week distros like CachyOS, popOS and Bazzite that will be out of the vogue in 3 years, instead of something that just works” is what I could’ve said just as well, but how about let people use what they want?
If anyone else would rather read text as text: https://www.linuxteck.com/ubuntu-trust-problem-2026/
Appreciate it as a mobile user!
Thanks :)
Strong agree. I use a derivative that blocks snaps instead of direct Kubuntu now, and it wasn’t Just because of the snaps.
Maybe it was just me, but Kubuntu was also the least stable distro I’ve tried on my gaming laptop. Constant crashes and random reboots.
I’ve had zero issues with Mint.
I started out with Ubuntu a little over a year ago. Then came an update that removed the ability to change the brightness of my desktop’s monitor. Felt like an Apple move, so I gave Mint another go. Have really enjoyed it (though I’m starting to eye CachyOS since Mint has seemingly decided to comply in advance with the CA age-verification law–haven’t added anything yet, but say they will)
i still have a server running ubuntu
i run snaps on it ewwwww!
it has never fucked me over
the malware one happens in most repos at some point, but the rest is why i dont use ubuntu.
Not this kind of malware specifically. Their snap repo has a policy of allowing fully automatic app submission as long as the app is sandboxed. This led to multiple people submiting modified crypto wallet apps under the branding of the original trusted devs, without any challenge on Ubuntu’s part. You could also put up a Librewolf version that leaks all the passwords you type in, or a Signal without encryption - ✨ endless creativity ✨. This specific attack is harder on Flathub as all apps have to be checked by the moderation team, and they should ask question if your Librewolf package is built from your own repo.
The best part of Ubuntu was improving Debian. In the beginning, Debian was a bit ugly and difficult. Ubuntu was competition, and perhaps resources (IDK) directly or indirectly. Debian is much easier to use than it was when Ubuntu was new.
Ubuntu is taking the RedHat approach (over complicating so that one must buy the support).
The article: https://www.linuxteck.com/ubuntu-trust-problem-2026/
Thanks. I have to wonder if people became allergic to posting text that can be resized to my screen.
Although the site is also shit, on the phone the text column is like twenty characters wide.
arch
bow and arrow
is this from another dimension?
Is .gif different there?
All symbols are wrong, but in ways that oddly make sense:
- Mint - it’s a leaf.
- Fedora - it’s a wearable.
- Debian - the logo coils itself, so does a snake.
- Arch - arcus~arco~arc is “bow” in Latin/Romance.
I don’t know if what I’m going to say is correct, but this smells like LLM shitting emojis.
Seems in that place a Fedora is worn on the chest instead of head.
I find it rather interesting that the same author wrote a new article about how to install Ubuntu 24.04 LTS the day after writing about Ubuntu’s trust problem, but without mentioning the previous article or any point he previously made…
I’ve come to learn that it might be AI writing these
100%… I just had a look through the other articles too and they reek of AI.
Im pretty sure these articles are written with AI. He already uses AI for generating images for the articles too. Like this paragraph from one of the articles… Who the fudge writes like this?
Text in image:
This single question filters out script writers from script engineers. Most beginners write scripts that silently fail. Production scripts at companies like Stripe or Palantir use strict error handling from line one.
“author”
Ironically, just read an article recently about this exact issue.
The article from LinuxTeck is AI generated. Not unlikely the itsfoss was used as inspiration or whatever since ot was posted the week before.
No prompt. No warning. No consent.
This was not a bug. It was a deliberate product decision.
Yeah… too many rhetorical devices. A human writer would notice that it’s getting a bit excessive.
Lmao, they put ads in the terminal? Are they pandering to Win11 users?? :)
Worse, the ads on apt are because they put security updates behind a paywall for LTS - granted it’s free for home users but still requires to sign in to get access to them.
They are security updates that were never available otherwise. They didn’t take something that was freely available and put it behind a paywall. It was a new service.
Another TIL, that is even worse.
is it just me or does especially the text read AI-generated?
The whole “verified facts, no FUD” title is exactly the kind of shit an LLM would write. (And it’ll still make up a ton of “facts”, of course)
This style of website design is almost certainly AI made
It’s also using unicode emojis for Linux distros (that don’t really make sense) instead of their logos. The whole thing is likely AI generated.
It 100% is…
100% is. :)
As a user of hyphens, I have to change up how I talk in case it looks like AI (AI text also use the longer hypen, but some humans do too, as I found out talking to a friendly human on Lemmy a few months ago.
why is this infographic AI generated and where are the pixels
Snap is the cancer of Linux. Go work for Micro$lop if you like to disrespect users.
. . . and it all boils down to “Canonical being into rent-seeking and having weird NIH issues that make it push low-quality own software (snaps in the current iteration, but there have been others) over better solutions used by other distros.”
