Edit: Oops, it is /r/Tennessee, not /r/ProgressiveHQ

    • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
      21·
      2 days ago

      At one point it was a glorious place. Then 5 people became admins and mods of the most popular 100 sub reddits and began controlling the narrative to fit their beliefs. In my opinion reddit has been dead for at least 5 years now

    • GaMEChld@lemmy.world
      18·
      2 days ago

      Front page, I believe was what they called themselves. But yeah, it’s been a glorious fall.

    • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
      262·
      2 days ago

      Lets be clear though, reddit is only worse than lemmy because it is centralized by one group of douchebags.

      Lemmy has plenty of shitty moderation too, and arguably is worse at dealing with it within any given instance due to the lack of proper mod tools, the way posts that are deleted remove entire comment sections from being accessible, the lack of any appeals system and I’m sure a few other things I don’t remember off the top of my head.

      Its a people problem, and its a style of organization problem with this style of forum.

      • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
        6·
        2 days ago

        reddit is only worse than lemmy because it is centralized by one group of douchebags

        That’s a really big distinguishing factor though. When a group gets “too big to fail,” it becomes a problem by giving said group too much control. Look at the genocide apologist mods on /r/worldnews .

        The de-centralization / fragmentation of Lemmy is an important check against bad moderation.

        • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 days ago

          You absolutely bring up good points yes, but at the same time, I don’t think its a check, so much as a mild mitigation. Even on the lemmy verse there are still mega subs that take on the most activity and gain similar types of “too big to fail” critical user bases.

          The core problem, is that when a group gains disproportionate control over what users can see, they can push their views/twist arms, and that ultimately isn’t solved here.

      • jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network
        101·
        2 days ago

        I agree. Lemmy has a ton of awful moderators that abuse their power just to support “their” viewpoint.

        Lemmy is better though because it at least has the potential for people to have better moderation, as well as a modlog that keeps mods somewhat accountable and let’s people see what is being censored.

        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          2 days ago

          as well as a modlog that keeps mods somewhat accountable and let’s people see what is being censored.

          I’m not sure if this is still true, but you can get around that though if you ban the person before removing the comment. Also, some communities have a delay on showing what’s been removed.

        • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
          4·
          2 days ago

          I agree. Lemmy has a ton of awful moderators that abuse their power just to support “their” viewpoint.

          Indeed. Famously the elephant in the room of the ml instance where they’re gone so far off the deep end on a lot of topics that they end up in essence supporting extremist conservative views/human rights abuses and worse. This is either with direct support with the weird straight up dictatorship praises many sing, being so toxic and hard to talk to that they push people away (who I hope know they certainly aren’t the average left leaning person) or the awful thing many do where they feel any incremental positive change is bad, and the only good change is a magic overnight revolution and shift to 100% exactly their view of how society should work, that they’ll also never spell out.

          Lemmy is better though because it at least has the potential for people to have better moderation

          In some ways yes, in some ways the opposite (as mentioned with the lack of tools).

          Regarding the modlog, maybe I am missing something, but when things are deleted here, its actually a little bit worse than reddit sometimes in that you won’t be able to immediately see the content that was deleted of yours, and then for mod logs, I believe (As I am not 100% sure) that comment removals disappear when the user who made the comment is banned as well, so its kinda false transparency.

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
    46·
    2 days ago

    The mod of a fascist sub about a fascist state of a fascist country on a fascist website is behaving like fascist? I’m shocked.

  • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
    121·
    2 days ago

    No outside political agitators (This is a broad one, but if we look at your post history and all you do is spam geographical subs stirring the political cauldron we will remove your post and ban you from this sub)

    The lesson on Reddit (if you still use that platform) is to hide your history. I’m guessing they used this rule for the ban. Bans from subs should exclusively be for content posted on that sub. If something is bad enough to warrant a sitewide ban, that is another matter.

    Anyhow, there are is another post about the election: https://old.reddit.com/r/Tennessee/comments/1p36q6s/millions_pour_into_tennessee_special_election/

    • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      2 days ago

      This raises the question: Is there somebody else on that sub posting about the special election? There should be enough Tennesseans that at least one of them should post there.

      • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        Blue dots in a sea of red. I’m in a similar political geography and you see a similar pattern.

        I’m sure there’s been quite a few posts, but they just don’t last.

        Reddit is sort of dead.

    • Typhoon@lemmy.ca
      12·
      2 days ago

      Yeah but greedy little pig boy Spez just became a billionaire, so it was worth sacrificing your speech for his wealth.

    • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      To which I disagree.

      With all the cases on reddit where it seems that outcome serves republicans - there is a counter-argument of how most major subs are democrat-sided subs. Maybe mods are republicans, but still user base is majority of democrats. r/pics, r/adviceanimals, r/therewasanattempt, r/clevercomebacks, r/facepalm - these were never primarily about politics. And now they are and these are only democrat-sided.

      Or, maybe, it is astroturfing and political bots swarm these subs. Who knows at this point?

  • Guy Ingonito@reddthat.com
    15·
    2 days ago

    Basically all the local subreddits have right-wing mods and a cadre of incels that try to drive the conversation constantly towards minorities who commit crimes

  • jaybone@lemmy.zipEnglish
    65·
    3 days ago

    Wow. Just fucking wow.

    Does Facebook and X do similar types of censoring when it comes to the Republican agenda?

    Or is it somehow easier to install them as mods on Reddit subs, making it appear to be more “grass roots” without blaming the platform itself for censorship and bias?

    I guess of fb you have “groups” (as opposed to subs) where you could install similar “mods.”

    • 87Six@lemmy.zip
      20·
      3 days ago

      Facebook, Twitter and Reddit all have a history of silencing by shadowbans and most people have no idea. There’s a billion different ways to silence you on each of these.

    • pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip
      11·
      2 days ago

      I think left wing content on Xitter just gets suppressed, not deleted. Since buying a checkmark gets your posts boosted to the top of the algorithm, and right wingers are far more likely to give money to the Nazi bar.

      But, I haven’t used it in a long time, so I could be mistaken. When I gave up on it, I was being shown almost nothing but alt right shit regardless of how many accounts I blocked/muted or what posts I interacted with, though. (And pretty much the only other content I’d get was porn and gore that I didn’t want to see.) And every search would show me a hearty mix of Nazi propaganda and porn, no matter how irrelevant.

    • skisnow@lemmy.caEnglish
      15·
      3 days ago

      Reddit moderation has been pretty comprehensively captured by bad actors.

    • ronl2k@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      3 days ago

      Designing an opinion platform with “volunteer” mods is asking for agenda-driven operatives to volunteer.

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        especially when you boot out all the volunteers with accessibility needs over API monetization that was clearly just meant to kill off API usage.

    • Nasan@sopuli.xyz
      11·
      3 days ago

      X probably does. Facebook seems to be more impartial. Not that it speaks much against Zuck’s support for the administration.

      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
        17·
        3 days ago

        New study shows just how Facebook’s algorithm shapes conservative and liberal bubbles

        The answer seems to be yes. After analyzing popular political news links posted on the platform between September 2020 and February 2021, the researchers found that there’s not much overlap between political news consumption within the two camps. Segregation also increases as a news link moves from being selected by the algorithm, to being seen by a user, to being interacted with.

        That ideological gap was larger than what other research has shown for overall news consumption online and in traditional media.

        “This borders on an indictment of Facebook’s algorithm,” said Laura Edelson, a computer scientist and postdoctoral researcher at NYU. She was not involved with the project but has done similar research and reviewed the studies’ findings. (In 2021, Edelson and her team were blocked from accessing Facebook after a clash over the data they were collecting.)

      • jaybone@lemmy.zipEnglish
        4·
        3 days ago

        I assume with X you need to directly manipulate the algorithm to manipulate what appears in feeds. Which means you don’t have this plausible deniability by blaming a third party mod. OTOH it’s more difficult for a user to detect the platform doing algorithm manipulation and call out the platform because it’s just a black box to them.

    • Tilgare@lemmy.world
      31·
      2 days ago

      I would expect Twitter to be a huge conservative circle jerk, but it really is not. I think the fighting between the two sides is good for business. I also would expect TikTok to do so as well, and maybe it will once Ellison takes over, but so far that’s the best boots on the ground source for seeing real events happening in real time, even if it conflicts with whatever bullshit narrative is spun out of the event.

      • jaybone@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        Is Oracle really going to host TikTok? That’s been a rumor for like two years now. Even if they do host it on their servers, what kind of administrative or moderation control are they expected to have?

        • Tilgare@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 day ago

          I don’t know about hosting - but the deal was being finalized a little over a month ago and it was reported that Oracle would manage the security and algorithm after the purchase of TikTok US. Or at least, they will be licensing the algorithm if they won’t own it. The new development I was unaware of is that it won’t just be Larry Ellison, but also Rupert Murdoch and Michael Dell. We truly live in hell.

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
    221·
    2 days ago

    Abandon Reddit and leave it as a Government of Putin cesspool filled with Russian shills. If the Volunteer Oblast votes for Van Epstein, fuck them too for protecting pedophiles, rapists and felons.