• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    17 hours ago

    Honestly, nations desperate to join an aggressive alliance that’s responsible for death and destruction across the globe can get fucked. And they deserve everything that’s coming to them.

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      16 hours ago

      An Alliance so aggressive that decades of peace lulled it into such deep complacency that they let their military capabilities atrophy? You’re being a try-hard

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            14 hours ago

            You asserted “decades of peace” when Libya was fucking bombed. Libya presented zero threat to Europe or Europeans.

            That’s not peace.

            Also, is Libya better off today than it was under Qaddafi?

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              12 hours ago

              We were talking about Europe so I apparently wasn’t specific enough. Most countries in NATO let any capacity they had for large scale land wars wither after the cold war ended since they only saw conflict in small “police actions” in far away lands as being in their future. Things like Kosovo. And, to be fair, even the Russians (Putin aside) were confident that Europe was past large land wars too.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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        16 hours ago

        An alliance that invaded Yugoslavia, and whose main sponsor has invaded Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Afghanistan, just to name a few victims. The fact that NATO was free to roam and pillage the world while ignoring Russia underlines the fact that Russia was not an actual threat. If it was, then NATO chuds would’ve been focusing on it rather than maundering around the globe.

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              14 hours ago

              Some of us don’t “US bad, Russia good”. We look at each individual scenario, analyze it, and come to conclusions.

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                6 hours ago

                Nice straw man, nobody said US bad, Russia good. What I said is that you made a false equivalence. The atrocities the US commits around the globe are unparalleled. Analyze the fact that China hasn’t been at war since the 70s, and that it helps countries develop and improve their standard of living while the US bombs them and steals their resources. Analyze the fact that Russia has no problems having peaceful relations with all its neighbours in the east. Calling what you’re doing here ‘analysis’ is the height of comedy.

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                11 hours ago

                you just do a lazy “All powerful nations bad”, because you have a lib definition of imperialism

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                55 minutes ago

                Except you did zero analysis, you just went “everyone is bad” and proceeded to feel smug and superior.