• Seth Taylor
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    16 minutes ago

    I’m installing Linux on an old laptop this October to start getting used to it. G Meanwhile I’m getting the extra year of security updates for Windows my main laptop. Then, when that year is over, I’m installing Linux on my main laptop and sticking with it.

  • @bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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    132 hours ago

    I installed win11 in a vm just for fun, then ran the deblpat script. The amount of shit that removed was astonishing.

    Still sucks ass but at least its not as bad as a damn emachine from 2005. Win 11 performance is so damn shit.

    • kadu
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      122 hours ago

      What absolute scares me is how even if you download Windows Enterprise IoT, which already comes extremely clean out of the box, and then run your favorite debloating script (removing even more crap)… the system still shows a noticeable delay when opening the right click menu, or the start menu, or a new Explorer window. So the most basic possible tasks, that you do constantly, for some reason are slow on a modern multi-core processor and a clean build of the OS.

      How the hell did they manage to downgrade… the start menu? the right click menu? How?

      • @jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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        52 hours ago

        I read they’re using react, the JavaScript library, for the start menu. If true that strikes me as insane

        • @dyc3@lemmy.world
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          61 hour ago

          They’re likely using react native (Microsoft has pretty much gone all in on react for new ui things). It’s not as crazy as it sounds, the majority of cross platform mobile apps use react native.

          It’s important to note that it’s not a web browser that’s rendering the ui. The way it works is that react native provides a way for js logic to define the ui declaratively (kinda like HTML), then react native calls platform native components to do the actual rendering. So you declare <Button> and what comes out on the other end is a real, genuine windows-provided button.

    • thermal_shock
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      22 hours ago

      And if you don’t reboot it like every ten days, services are guaranteed to not reenable and shit will start breaking. I see it daily, and people look at me weird wondering why they have to reboot their shit so often, thinking I’m lying to them and saying “reboot”.

  • @Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    243 hours ago

    And why the fuck is windows always “preparing” to do something!? Are you generating a record of my activities to phone home with? Just do the damn thing!

  • Krudler
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    203 hours ago

    Just a moment

    Progress bar at 100%

    Progress text reads “complete”

    Wait 2 hours

  • wuffah
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    305 hours ago

    I recommend Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC, which is supported until 2032 and has never required me to update my fucking clock or calculator, never crashed my SSD, and never randomly encrypted my hard drive and lost the recovery keys! And, there’s no OneDrive, Copilot, Recall, Cortana, Clippy, or whatever else Microsoft’s cocaine addled executives have come up with this week to FUCK us.

    Since thats the standard for operating systems we’re working with now, I’d say this one is pretty good!

    Here’s how you can purchase your copy today!

    • @dan@upvote.au
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      123 hours ago

      Isn’t the IoT version missing some features?

      The real fix is to switch to Linux.

      Also, what’s wrong with Clippy?

      • wuffah
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        43 hours ago

        IoT is missing all the features I hate, but they can usually be installed manually if desired.

        I’m holding out till 2032 for Linux by which time I will be dead or ready to switch.

        I was one of those cool 90’s kids who hated Clippy, and I am still just as immature.

        • @NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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          219 minutes ago

          Why are you waiting so long? Windows XP pushed me over the edge and I switched to Linux then. Everything was suddenly better. Computers were useful and fun again.

          What are you waiting for?

        • @dan@upvote.au
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          241 minutes ago

          I was one of those cool 90’s kids who hated Clippy, and I am still just as immature.

          I always liked the red ball and the wizard more than Clippy anyways.

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      22 hours ago

      Honestly I’ll just stick to a custom Windows 11 image if I need Windows.

      Chris Titus tech even has a tool to build one

    • lazynooblet
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      22 hours ago

      I’m using Win11 LTSC and it’s great for the same reasons.

      • wuffah
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        84 hours ago

        Yes, purchase legitimately from Microsoft with a genuine Microsoft license key from Microsoft because software piracy is wrong and totally not justified in the face of abusive software monopolies.

    • @Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      23 hours ago

      On the computers I still have running windows, this is what I’m using and I have dodged So much of the bullshit people have been dealing with. I’m still running Linux on my main machines though. Maybe by the end of the year I’ll have migrated everything away from both Microsoft and Google.

    • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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      135 hours ago

      Yeah, came home to my pc having restarted itself for updates the other day, despite having 2 VMs running at the time that were not properly shut down. Then Windows tried to push their cloud backup on me… twice, and it reset my mouse speed to the default for some reason

      • @tourist@lemmy.world
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        44 hours ago

        Then Windows tried to push their cloud backup on me… twice

        This is major boundary respect by Microsoft’s standards

        • @bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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          32 hours ago

          Cloud backup just means they will use all and any data on your pc and network to train their shitty ai to do more shitty things and continue stealing our data. Yay future.

          • @tourist@lemmy.world
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            111 minutes ago

            Lets say they don’t use private data for training

            (Continue reading when you’re done laughing):

            Eventually, victims eventually run out of “free” storage.

            The humble corporation will do a bunch of psychologically unethical tricks to basically hypnotize users into forking over those three digits at the back of the family credit card.

            Now the victim’s data is effectively held ransom. Keep paying or lose it.

            But they won’t stop paying. They paid for a year’s plan at a discount and the peaceful megacorp conveniently hit autorenew for them at checkout.

            12 months roll around and oopsie, they already have the money. They could go through the refund process, but they’ve got shit on their plate, might as well keep it for another year.

            I could keep rambling, but on Lemmy, I’m probably preaching to the choir about the first verse of genesis.

      • TheProtagonist
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        06 hours ago

        Isn’t everything being saved automatically anyway, when you work in the cloud (i.e. SharePoint)?

        • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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          22 hours ago

          Libreoffice does this without forcing you to allow them to store all of your files. Because it’s a feature that doesn’t rely on any kind of cloud bs, MS just added that requirement because they are assholes that have no respect for their users.

          • TheProtagonist
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            No, thanks! ;-)

            Actually I work a lot with Office Documents on SharePoint in my job and for each of them “automatic saving” is on, so you never have to worry about anything. Just close the application when you’re done and your work is always up-to-date.

            • @wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              55 hours ago

              MS disabled the auto-save function for anything on a local disk, which is necessary for me because I use *gasp* version control software.

              • @The_v@lemmy.world
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                14 hours ago

                If you turn off a few of Microsoft’s more insane tracking in the privacy settings, it disables the autosave “feature”. The autosave fucked up version tracking badly enough that it was nice to have a global kill button.

                I have found that turning off most new “features” that Microsoft makes recently is usually for the best.

      • @Zorque@lemmy.world
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        -13 hours ago

        It doesn’t happen to me, but I took a proactive approach to prevent it from happening. I don’t remember what that action was, since I did it years and years ago… but I know it’s possible. You just have to literally more than nothing to prevent these things.

        Or you could switch to linux… but that takes an even more proactive approach.

        • @Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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          22 hours ago

          My approach was spending even more money for the pro version so I could access the OS settings paywalled by group policy and set it to never automatically download updates.

          It would tell me about updates, but wouldn’t do shit until I clicked a button on the update page to actually install them (though without the option to pick and choose which ones).

          It still nagged me about stupid shit I didn’t want, like edge, bing, one drive, and their office subscription.

          So when I built a newer computer, I gave them $0 and installed Fedora and laugh at my former reluctance because it’s actually been easier and I haven’t even had moments where I wished I had just stuck with windows.

          Not saying that it’s been perfect without any issues, I just recall that there were also issues on windows to deal with, a lot more dated responses showing up in searches that tell you do go to some setting window that no longer exists because the question was answered 6 months ago. Oh and I haven’t had to fight my fucking OS deciding to change my settings back to the shitty defaults they set (plus Linux just has better defaults, so doesn’t even need as much settings tweaking).

          And as an added bonus, switching made me finally pull the plug on xbox game pass, which was a nice idea but I still mostly just spent my time playing games on steam and forgetting to check game pass when buying games on sale, so it was kinda a waste of money. But each time I considered getting rid of it before, I’d instead convince myself it was good to have and end up playing some games on there for a few days before forgetting about it again.

            • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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              23 hours ago

              … why are internet people like this?

              I used windows constantly for 20+ years. Since windows 7 I noticed this auto-restarting bullshit. I switched to linux in 2021. What kind of gotcha do you think you have… ?

              • @Zorque@lemmy.world
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                -23 hours ago

                I never said it didn’t happen, I said you had to take steps to make it not happen.

                Why are you like this? With the incessant need to be right and everyone else wrong?

      • @phlegmy@sh.itjust.works
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        251 minutes ago

        Not enough AI. Gotta use the webcam+AI to set the timezone to one that’s most frequently used by people of whatever ethnicity it thinks you are.

        • @thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
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          344 minutes ago

          no no, it just needs your location data every second to make sure it’s set to the correct time zone. Microsoft and their 1.8 million partners decided that the clock can’t work without your location data.

          (I’m joking, for the inevitable person that’s going to try to disagree)

    • @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      227 hours ago

      Oh no. We’re going to get Vibe Clocks aren’t we? AI is just going to spit out times and it’s on you to check to make sure it’s correct.

      • @sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        14 hours ago

        Replacing some code/bug that‘s been present since xp probably would be my second guess.

        I’m still waiting(but not really) for them to fix the rdp app(msstore) but instead they killed it and now we have the „windows app“. What the fuck is even that backwards nondescript name.

        • Harvey656
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          24 hours ago

          Lol, waiting for Microsoft to fix things? Oh boy, your gonna be waiting awhile.

          • @sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            23 hours ago

            I was kinda hoping for the last 2 years. at my most recent ex workplace we had to manually apply every update (website basically) via rdp/teamviewer or whatever. So it would’ve been relatively nice to use the rdp tool which allows you to group and save your connections, if it wasn’t for the simple fact, that this application would crash your system‘s Explorer every time meaning you can’t copy shit. So i checked again and again and sure enough instead of fixing this one not that minor bug, they completely abandoned the application in favor of the windows app which our system administrator would’ve had to configure first, so it would not work at all. Thankfully I don’t have to cosplay as a ci anymore so all things considered nah I’ve stopped waiting for anything from ms. As you said it’s not worth it.

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      Hi I’m Clock Copilot

      Set up an alarm at 7:53 am? Statistically this when most people wake up.

      No

      Set a 8:00:85 timer? To make you feel better about your dead grandma?

      No

      *Sets an 2:30 am timer anyway

    • @Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world
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      66 hours ago

      “Hello, I’m your AI chat companion that consumes mass amounts of energy to help consult you on what time you should wake up to be efficient with your energy and time, how may I help?”

  • @ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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    85 hours ago

    Whoooaaaaa I heard the next update is gonna be HUGE

    The leaks say they’re adding millidays and a whole new second

  • @Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    My main gripe is Windows Defender. I have an app that integrates with Home Assistant and Windows keeps flagging a component as a Trojan virus. Makes sense, as it’s supposed to access admin level functions to read some sensors and enable remote power control.

    But for years I’ve seen MsMpEng.exe, or the antivirus, constantly scan my 4TB HDD, either looking for viruses or doing some stupid NTFS remapping thing. It’s loud and only spun up when idle on Win10, but became more aggressive on Win11 with less time to start scanning and not stopping when I move the mouse.

    The latest development with breaking my app just means I’m more vigilant in turning the entire antivirus off when it turns on and starts scanning.

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      I have a volume, let’s call it “Shit I put in here that I have randomly acquired over the years”, mostly smallish files of any nature, text, image, executables, archives, that I’ve been carrying with me for over two decades, cloning from one drive upgrade to the next, surviving multiple systems. I’ve noticed that starting with Windows 7, defender without so much as a notification, started removing random files it deems malicious. I suspect they may have been quarantined at first, but other times outright deleted, as I’m sure the default behaviour settings have been overridden by updates numerous times.
      I’ve had a couple executables that were doing direct memory reading and injection for some MMOs, think packet sniffing or botting/automating certain tedious tasks, and defender would eliminate the executable without so much as a warning when I have extracted backup archive of it.

      Then there was the infamous case of DeCSS, and defender removing anything related to it from drives, ignoring white lists, removing it from SMBs even where it had write access, and always categorizing it as something else, now malicious.

      And I’m pretty sure it also removed a copy of The Terrorist’s Handbook in doc format at one point from my drive.

    • @wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Makes sense, as it’s supposed to access admin level functions to read some sensors and enable remote power control.

      That makes no fucking sense. Kernal level driver accesses sensors. User mode driver reads that stuff and provides API access to whatever app.

      You’ve got a shitty, shitty system.

  • Rose
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    46 hours ago

    Last time Clock was interesting was in the Windows 3.0 days. Windows 11 clock is just beyond meh.

    Since Windows these days can’t be arsed to have an analog clock with second hand (which is what I need for properly setting clocks on all of the devices that don’t have internet access), I just made one myself one day.