• @bleistift2@sopuli.xyz
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    5220 hours ago

    Well, I’d wager today’s rails are all electrified, and double-tracked, and mostly built for high-speed trains, while in the 1930’s you had single-tracked, curvy tracks mostly capable of connecting one village to the next. I’m no expert, but for short travels and low throughput, a bus is probably the better option than a train.

    • @schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2120 hours ago

      If there already is rail infrastructure, it is unlikely that you are improving anything by demolishing it and replacing it with a bus. Whether it would make sense to build all those railway lines nowadays is a different question, but demolishing them where they already existed was in no way an improvement. Buses never have any real advantage over taking one’s own car on the same route. Trains can have an advantage because they are more comfortable and can bypass traffic jams.

      The map would look quite similar in many other European countries too. The widespread adoption of cars killed the demand for many of those railway lines. :(

      • lerba
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        2919 hours ago

        I’m not sure if you’ve really thought this one through. Railway maintenance is expensive, and operating stations and switches requires personnel as well. In low-traffic areas you could get away with one single bus line, meaning you only need to maintain that one bus and pay the driver’s salary.

        • @Benaaasaaas@group.lt
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          717 hours ago

          I like the idea that bus just magically floats to the destination as if roads are any cheaper to maintain than railway.

          • lerba
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            1317 hours ago

            And I suppose you assume that cars will just float magically if you build a railroad?

          • SebaDC
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            516 hours ago

            Roads are used for a lot more traffic than rails.

            So if you break it down by traveler, it’s much cheaper and more flexible.

      • @bleistift2@sopuli.xyz
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        It takes money and (probably more importantly) personnel to operate a rail line. Think regular inspections and repairs of tracks and stations, cutting of trees, operating switches, controlling traffic, regularly updating schedules (so the trains actually make sense in the greater scheme of things), actually driving the trains, cleaning and maintaining them, and replacing them.

        Again, I’m no expert, but I hold the belief that even a fancy bus line is orders of magnitude cheaper than a train line where demand isn’t high.

        Buses never have any real advantage over taking one’s own car on the same route. Trains can have an advantage because they are more comfortable and can bypass traffic jams.

        Buses allow you to do different things en route, just like trains. And they aren’t necessarily less comfortable than trains. Your argument about traffic jams is moot. There are no traffic jams between small towns.

        • @schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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          019 hours ago

          Operating a bus line also costs money. Bus drivers don’t work for free either, nor do buses just grow on trees. So many of those costs also exist for bus lines. In fact due to buses having less capacity than trains, you need more staff to transport the same number of people by bus than by train.

          Trains are more comfortable than all road traffic because road traffic always uses bumpy roads that degrade comfort, rail traffic always glides on smooth metal rails.

      • magikmw
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        318 hours ago

        We have a similiar situation for a lot of smaller rail connections. And nobody demolished anything, they are still there, just unmaintained and nit operational. Neglect is much cheaper than directed action.

  • @whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works
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    1820 hours ago

    is there a map with the served stations because in some cases it looks like you still can go to the same place but you have connections instead of direct lines ? But still kind of sad, not getting better currently, mostly because of the costs, a plane can be way cheaper than train… I don’t understand why they don’t increase taxes of aeroplane transports