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I often catch myself using Downloads to store a very suspicious quantity of files.
Yes. Downloads is the way.
If you want to make yourself organize better, set up a cron to remove all downloads older than 7 days 😳 then you’ll be efficient—and probably have nightmares.
No,I’ll just disable the cron job before it executes and forget about it.
😳
You’re a massive du -sh
Downloads is usually my largest folder. Funny thing is that it is literally all just Linux isos because I’m trying some things with servers
“Linux ISOs”
They are actually Linux isos. But also ironically, one of the things I’m trying to set up is the *arr set of tools
“Trying some things”
Then you end up liking what you slapped together with jank and a prayer to the temporary work-around and now there’s a new prod server!
I wish. I’ve never kept a personal server up for more than a month. I just never use them
Linux or Windows… doesn’t matter. Downloads is where I. Will find it.
Yeah cause my work computer limits onedrive storage to like 100mb and downloads is one if the only places where I have write access and it doesn’t go to onedrive.
I shit you not, IT around 2004, I had a nurse who stored all her important docs in “Recyle Bin”
She put in a ticket that her computer was slow. We scheduled a time to look at it and made sure she knew to be there.
When I showed up, she had left to go to lunch on purpose so she could take a free long lunch. I asked her manager to call her back in, she refused.
I diagnosed she was out of space, and emptied her bin.
That did not end up going well.
She was furious, Her boss was mad. My boss was pissed that it happened but considered it reasonable since she refused to be there.
I spent the better part of 4 hours undeleting deleted recycle bin contents which is WAYYYYYY harder than undeleting deleted files. They’re already UUID’s and bringing them back into existence will not put them back in the recycle bin, all that meta is gone.
Well duh.
It is a recycle bin after all.
The thoughts will be reused at some point for something new /sProject designer: the project function is self explanatory.
User:
I asked her what the fuck she was thinking later in the process. She knew that files weren’t supposed to be there She just thought it was a good idea, and was very defensive borderline offensive about being able to store files wherever she wanted.
My first inclination was she was just putting non-work-related stuff in there so that her manager would never see it. But no, there were hundreds of megs of work related stuff. I recommended she not store the 500 megs of personal digital camera fodder on what computer if she was that tight on space. Hard drives of this era were only a handful of gigs large. She just flipped out some more demanded a bigger disc. I had a private consult with her manager and mentioned that We could get a bigger desk but it was going to come out of her budget. She declined.
A year later we did SOX compliance and as part of that we deleted emails over 3 months and deleted any recycling bin data over a month old. I made sure her manager noted this and that it would delete her preferred file storage and never heard another word out of them.
Apparently ISO 8601:2000 allowed YY-MM-DD, but the 2004 version does not.
Til
If you call the bottom picture a “Data Lake” you can IPO and walk away with millions
“Unstructured Data”.
It’s horizontal scaling!
Time series
Ok. Calling me out like that. It’s fine, I deserve it.
I store everything “temporarily” because “I’ll sort it later” on the Desktop.
It’s never later.
I call it “Purgatory”
The most items I had on my work desktop was 1366, they were overlapping on my screen and windows+D would lag the whole computer. It was glorious.
Anyone who uses YYMMDD instead of ISO 8601 needs to be fed feet first into a wood chipper.
I assumed they meant it like
2025-08-18…Though TBF I sometimes rename files using the terminal and go
mv $file "some_name_$(date +%s),ext"ISO 8601 is
YYYYMMDD(orYYYY-MM-DDin extended format)Are you really going to wood chipper someone for leaving off the leading
20? I think we can safely infer the century and millennium with a high confidence, why not trade them for two extra name characters?As an old person who has archives dating back to the 90s, yes.
So do I, but I don’t think I need to worry too much about confusing them with 2090.
Just you wait…
I mean, I could hope to live that long!
Wise people plant trees whose shade they’ll never stand in.
Now the alphabetical view doesn’t sort them by date
Here you go gramps:
(shortD) => { return parseInt(shortD.slice(0, 2), 10) > 50 ? "19" + shortD : "20"+shortD; }Did the software industry learn nothing from Y2K? Was it too long ago already for people to remember the mess we made for ourselves?
Saving two characters in a file name is not worth the hell you are leaving in your trail by shoving this nonsense in an obscure corner of production code that people are going to forget about until it’s too late.
Their grandchildren will be pissing on their graves over it.
I often wonder what files may outlive me.
People have kept old physical remnants. There are obviously famous examples but there are far more mediocre examples.
All the unique content I’ve created fits on a modestly sized hard drive so keeping it around would be trivial compared to maintaining all those physical remnants.
It’s just a filename, calm down. The created by date is tracked by the file system and the repo.
And you assume that changes to filesystems, new filesystems being created or other such things won’t at some point create a edge case that creates a problem?
When you could just be safe? Sounds stupid as fuck to me to blindly trust nothing will happen to create problems.
They’ve never had to recover a hard drive. It’s okay, they’ll learn the hard way.
I understand you feel very strongly about four digit years, but I really don’t see any situation that I couldn’t sort out with a simple script.
Usually I don’t put dates in file names in the first place, but when I do I use the UTC timestamp; a date without a timezone is inherently fuzzy, and it’s easier to compare and differentiate numerical times.
If someone used two digit years in their naming convention I wouldn’t even blink, let alone get the woodchipper, life is too short to get angry over stuff like that.
Until people start applying the same logic everywhere for consistency, not just in file names.
LOL!
are we just talking digital because i’ve inherited archives. my current one only goes back to the 1950s but in the next decades i expect to get some going back centuries.
I helped digitally convert my local library’s microfilm archives, mostly newspapers, but also some really old titles and deeds. Tons of stuff from the 1800s.
do you also read the word TITLES wrong in lowercase?
I recently had an accountant file something for the IRS that was dated as expiring in 1940 when it should’ve been 2040. I had to catch it myself after reading through 70 pages of dense forms before it was sent off, and I could’ve easily missed it.
Digital records have existed long enough now that it’s downright irresponsible to leave off the century for anything where having an accurate date might even slightly matter.
The exact date of creation is usually preserved in the filesystem, we’re just talking about what to name the documents themselves. The filename should be short and to the point, it gets truncated if it’s too long, and on windows you only have 260 characters for the entire path to the file plus the name.
If two characters are hurting your 260 character limit then you have other more serious problems to contend with.
I use to do that but got tired of typing out unnecessary characters and appreciate the shorter character length. I think my folders and files will be long gone by Y2Point1K.
So, was the time of murder 20th of October 2021 - 1:25 PM or 21st of October 2020 - 1:25 AM?
Depending upon that, you may/may-not have an alibi.
We’re just talking about the filename, the exact creation time is tracked by the OS. Plus I’d imagine most documents also have a time and date inside. The file name is mostly for sorting and human readability.
Oh, it was just filenames, not everything-everywhere?
Then I guess it’s fine.What’s this date btw?
10/8/10
nah sideways
I like my
YYYY.MM.DD-textformat and you can sue me for itDots are reserved for filetype information, heathen.
hehe yeah
Your full file extension ends up being:
MM.DD-text
but hopefully noone needs to parse it that way.I tend to use
YYYY-MM-DD_hh:mm:ss.zzzorYYYY-MM-DD_hh-mm-ss.zzzdepending upon the requirement and just recently realised the problem with the.before thezzz.
Luckily I don’t need to add thezzzquite often.
I make a point to train people on this at work, and I also make a point to periodically delete all relevant files that are not dated or not dated correctly
oh no you lost some important files? should’ve followed the standards
we only have so much space and your 1.2 GB undated file that isn’t even in the folder it should be in is getting deleted
one place i was at had ridiculous formatting standards. but like i loved that i could tell everything in a document by reading its title. just, when your pdf scan of your supporting documents for your tax return is 135 pages long, well the title took ten minutes to read
it was like 2010 tax return supporting documents + w2 - john doe - abc corp + w2 - john doe - def corp + 1099INT - john doe - BankBank +…pdf
and one of my jobs was to double check that the title accurately represented all 135 documents in that godsforsaken supporting documents scan. That was a rough year.
Other firm i worked at that year, because i was stupid and moonlit at TWO tax firms one tax season, just called the file SUPPORTING DOCS.pdf . Typed everything in all caps because we thought the IRS was blind. Also allowed us to stream music online and not have to play it on headphones with our doors shut in our offices. They were better.
wtf is an SDD?
Super duper drive …
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I’ll say that as much as I love Apple and macOS, Finder has some pretty terrible defaults that make file management pretty difficult for the average user. The default “All Files” view is atrocious.
- Not being able to create a file
- Folders aren’t by default listed at the top
- Spring-loaded folders are hit or miss
- No good intuitive way to set defaults for ALL folders at once
- No good intuitive way to reset any folder defaults
- .DS_Store and ._DS_Store (nuff said)
I HATE that windows will sort folders at the top instead of alphabetically with everything else. I guess it comes from using a Mac for so long.
I agree about .DS_Store in any mixed os environment though.
Yeah, I don’t know why having folders at the top would make anything easier.
Because if you’re looking for a subfolder you’re not looking for a file, and vice versa? It doesn’t matter much in sparse directories, but it annoys me having to scroll through a ton of files to find the folder I want in directories with both.
I too like a lot of things about Mac, but finder could be improved, for sure.
(I have gotten used to a lot of its features and hate Windows’ defaults too, so there’s that. I don’t think an ideal exists, unless it’s in Linux somewhere and I just need to dual boot the desktop and get it over with)
On macOS I just type the first few letters of the file/folder and because it’s in alphabetical order, I find it immediately. I don’t want to have to think “oh is this a file or a folder” then scroll around to the appropriate area.
This reminds me of users who complain about
<select>fields on websites: they always want some weird sorting instead of just tabbing into the field and typing a few letters.Thar makes sense, although I am generally not trying to use the keyboard at the same time (to be honest I was not aware you could filter a finder view like that, I thought it only ran search and I have never found MacOS’s search to be satisfactory)
I grew up on Windows but when I came to macOS I went hard into key commands; the UI is a lot more uniform so using a combination of key commands and Trackpad gestures you can fly through tasks pretty quickly.
I haven’t memorized everything, so file folders grouped together is easier.
Having the option to choose to sort either way would be the best option.
What is a spring-loaded folder?
I use that all the time but never knew it had a specific name.
This doesn’t sound any easier than using Ctrl+X to cut files and Ctrl+V to paste them wherever you want to?
Depends on how you use your computer. Plenty of people would tell you that using a GUI file manager and cutting/moving files is inefficient on any platform as opposed to just using a terminal.
There are times where it’s nice to drag a file or group of files and have Finder show me the content of the destination folder before I decide to drop the files. But sure I could do that with 3 mouse clicks and 4 keyboard taps.
I think that terminal only or primarily terminal is valuable, a combination of mouse and keyboard with shortcuts is valuable, and also the ability to just use your mouse (especially helpful for accessibility) is also valuable, and they all should be supported.
- Download iTerm2
- See 1
- See 2
- See 3
- See 4
- See 5
Last I checked that’s not a Finder replacement. 😉
Folders aren’t by default listed at the top
This is a aweful windows only thing. Anyone who likes it should be ashamed.
No good intuitive way to set defaults for ALL folders at once
This is inexperience with the finder because it’s ridiculously easy to set this.
Folders aren’t by default listed at the top
This is a aweful windows only thing. Anyone who likes it should be ashamed.
No. You cannot and will not shame me for something that is not shame worthy. Shame on you for trying.
No good intuitive way to set defaults for ALL folders at once
This is inexperience with the finder because it’s ridiculously easy to set this.
Do tell oh wise one. I’ve been using MacOS for over 15 years, and would love to learn the ways of a master such as yourself.
🙄
No. You cannot and will not shame me for something that is not shame worthy. Shame on you for trying.No good intuitive way to set defaults for ALL folders at once
You should be extra ashamed for not being ashamed and additionally shamed for taking this so seriously that you feel it necessary to attempt to shame someone who cheekily said you should be ashamed.
Do tell oh wise one. I’ve been using MacOS for over 15 years, and would love to learn the ways of a master such as yourself
Let me ChatGPT that for you without giving a shit how this formats, followed by more shame for relaxing your struggle with things because you lack the gumption to figure these things out in your own despite 15 years of use.
- Open a Finder Window
Pick any folder (usually your Home folder is a good starting point).
⸻
- Set the View You Want • Choose your preferred view style: • Icons: ⌘1 • List: ⌘2 • Columns: ⌘3 • Gallery: ⌘4
Then adjust things like: • Column widths • Sorting / Arrange by • Sidebar visibility • Preview pane visibility
⸻
- Apply with “Show View Options”
- With the folder open, press ⌘J (or go to View → Show View Options).
- At the bottom of the panel, you’ll see: • Use as Defaults (for List, Icon, or Gallery views) • Always open in … view
- Click Use as Defaults → this sets your chosen view/layout for all folders of that type.
Why would you use the Finder when macOS has a perfectly fine shell?
Image previews because I give my memes really dumb filenames
zsh? I mean, I use that too… but what does that have to do with anything?You can do all file management operations from the command line. No need to use the Finder.
I don’t think the “average user” is going to drop Finder to use the terminal.
In fact though I’m not an “average user”and use
bash,zshpretty much every day, there are still some things I’d rather do in Finder.
- New_document.docx
- New_document_1.docx
- New_document_111.docx
- New_document_12.docx
- New_document_12aaa.dox
- New_document_12aaafinal.docx
I wish someone make github but for documents. Image your documents can be forked by someone and has many branches and revisions, it must be hilarious.
You can literally just upload a library of documents to github or another repo service like codeberg. That’s basically what a code project is, a bunch of files.
The main difference being that code is typically stored in plain text files, where you can more easily compare and merge differences, while some other document types are harder to
diffusefully. That doesn’t mean you can’t use git to keep their version history, it just means resolving merge conflicts might be a bitch.
You just described SVN. It’s what we used before the invention of git. And is still used today for team projects that use complex file formats, like images, binary blobs, 3d models, that sort of stuff. It will work with any files.
Man, I hate my moms pc folder layout, like why do you have Documents folder inside of documents folder inside of Documents folder? Why do you create excel sheets inside Downloads folder when you didn’t download them???
P.A.R.A. - It’s a simple organization method and very easy to maintain.
This is really damn good. Thanks for sharing it!
I think most computer users now don’t know that file systems exist
Especially younger people. They’re used to files just… being there on their phone. Photo albums? Nah, just scroll though every photo you’ve ever taken to find the right one.
That, and having powerful search functionality + tagging has made perfect folder structures less of a requirement. I’ve never had trouble finding documents in paperless-ngx just by searching, for example.
Photo albums? Nah, just scroll though every photo you’ve ever taken to find the right one.
Then screenshot it so that the screenshot of the photo is at the top, then switch to the other app and upload the screenshot of the photo there.
“SDD”?
“SDD”?
Yes. Solid Disk Disk.
Solid disk drive
Thank you.
Just put it all in the same folder and call it something like:
20250816_ProjectType_ActualNameHere_v001
How about New folder (11)/Final/Final2/TO DELETE/New version/DO NOT DELETE/20250816_Version 4
Mmmmm… Just format the hard drive.
Just missing a random pile of files on the desktop.
What is this “desktop” of which you speak?
Is that what’s under all these files?
Desktops, are like ogres. They have layers 😬
My actual desk and office - messy. My desktop - folder, folder, 4 shortcuts. My phone -groups of apps ordered by function - Pebble, Office, Entertainment, etc. My garage - absolute hoarder nightmare from hell cause I just can’t seem to get to it. Why I can be ordered in one area and not in another is beyond me.
Do you even git?
Surely experiment 1…n should be branches.
With git LFS there’s no excuse.
You guys have never had to handle a 300GB tiff file from microscopy and it shows.
