• @Deflated0ne@lemmy.world
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    123 days ago

    Faltering empires always flail about militarily. Part of the death throes.

    That said. It would almost be worth him doing it just to see what happens when Mexico invokes Article 5.

      • @Deflated0ne@lemmy.world
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        33 days ago

        Well poo. Still. It’ll be fun to watch the US lose another war.

        25 years of recent living memory experience and we still can’t fight an insurgency. Let alone one that already knows all our best training and techniques.

  • ms.lane
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    624 days ago

    drawing up

    Doesn’t DoD have detailed attack plans for every nation already?

    • @frongt@lemmy.zip
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      464 days ago

      Yes.

      Well, not necessarily detailed. Like I’m sure the plan for an invasion of Uruguay is basically nonexistent, while one for war with China is comprehensive.

      Plans for a zombie apocalypse have also been created at least once as an exercise. It’s good practice for an emergency situation.

        • ms.lane
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          94 days ago

          We’ve got that in Australia!

          note: It’s ‘not rabies’ (it’s Bat Lyssavirus, which is ‘totally not rabies’*) and it’s ‘airborne’ since they’re bats :P

    • @gedaliyah@lemmy.world
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      264 days ago

      Yes but this is a bad headline. The article is about specifically using US military to attack cartels, which the Trump administration has already made legal for themselves by recategorizing them as terrorists.

      It is still a violation of both international law and common sense.

      • @Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        I imagine most militaries have contingency plans against enemies and allies ready to go. Wouldn’t be much of a defensive force without them. (I know that the US is not a defensive force. I live here. We will 100% take over your country for borderline no reason.)

    • BombOmOm
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      114 days ago

      Doesn’t DoD have detailed attack plans for every nation already?

      Yep. I would be more surprised if there wasn’t an attack plan for any country with more than 5m people.

  • @WanderingThoughts@europe.pub
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    424 days ago

    When current news gives you flashbacks to the Cyberpunk 2077 lore. The names and dates are different but the trends and events match enough to give the uncanny feeling. Agencies in the streets being deployed, USA in trade war losing irrelevance, going for the Central American war and then losing. By the way, that’s why cybernetic limbs got so good, they needed them to patch up the soldiers from that war.

      • B-TR3E
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        74 days ago

        Pretty much every nation with an army has attack plans against its’ neighbours, just in case. Actually using them, of course, is quite another thing. Unless you need to be really on your toes because of an unpredictable, aggressive and vicious southern neighbour like -not to name anyone- Austria.

        • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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          12 days ago

          At some level of detail, anyway. Usually the stupid ones are regarded as an exercise for junior officers, and there’s limited research that actually goes into them.

        • @Deflated0ne@lemmy.world
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          Most other countries aren’t currently ran by a dementia addled pedophile who’s desperate to become a king.

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            Heads of state do not design attack plans. Strategists do. In other words, all these generals have to do something for their money, so they breed over attack and defense scenarios of any imaginable situation so they can be perfectly unprepared if one of them really becomes real.

            • @Deflated0ne@lemmy.world
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              12 days ago

              Of course. They’ve got half a dozen attack plans for each country with more than a prop plane at their disposal.

              Still bodes ill that this president and this state dept are advertising that fact.

              • B-TR3E
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                117 hours ago

                Right. Actually, that’s a common known fact but nevertheless not a very popular thing to mention in public.

  • @altphoto@lemmy.today
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    22 days ago

    2025, the start of the beans war, USA Burrito vs. Mexican Taco. Fight fire with fire.

    It all starts with a sandwich attack… Next thing you know the USA realizes that drones can’t win a food war…

      • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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        12 days ago

        I doubt it. “Give us extra territory we haven’t taken and we’ll half stop” is not going to be agreed to even if Trump really wants it to be, and he’s been frustrated with Putin as well recently.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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        214 days ago

        They went from Ukraine being a Russian vassal state to a prospective NATO/EU member with 80% of their territory intact. What’s their next move, invade Belarus and end up half of that become an EU member too?

        That said, Putin has not walked away with 20% of anything just yet.

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          84 days ago

          Not just that. For that supposed 20% he reinvigorated NATO (prior to the full scale invasion countries started questioning if we still need NATO), got EU to increase defense spending and got Finland and Sweden to join NATO. They also proved they’re a paper tiger and their arms manufacturing is crap. Oh and of course sanctions and the war completely wrecking the economy.

          Even if they somehow get 20% it’s a Pyrrhic victory.

  • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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    274 days ago

    The US isn’t ready for a two front war where the whole world wants to get rid of them. They don’t have the cards.

    • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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      134 days ago

      Please… I’m not a big fan of the US right now either. But that is just an absurd claim. No one is going to willingly open up a front against the US.

      Like it or not, but they absolutely have the cards.

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        Canada would know that if the US attacks Mexico then it would be next, that would be the only time to fight.

        There isn’t a choice, this means Europe joins.

        Europe joining means China will join so that it can replace the US in Europe.

        Mexico at war is going to bring many countries below it in because they don’t want to be the next smaller country on the US doorstep.

        • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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          23 days ago

          Canada isn’t a smuggle route worth billions.

          The only reason they could even potentially go into Mexico is due to the Cartels and their billion dollar drug trade. (I don’t have facts saying it’s a billion dollar drug trade. But I’m making an educated guess that’s it’s worth a shit ton of money)

          There is just no way in hell Canada would ever strike first on the US and be the aggressor. Even if Canada would strike at the US, why the hell would Europe side with Canada? They are now the aggressor. Attacking a fellow NATO member no less.

          • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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            13 days ago

            The realism of my previous statement, no one would view it as a strike first, it’s retaliation for attacking Mexico.

            The alternative is to just get picked off one by one.

            After Canada comes Denmark so be realistic about it.

            • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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              23 days ago

              Ehm… I disagree. Everyone would see it as a first strike. Because that’s what it is.

              Canada has no military alliance with Mexico as far as I know.

              I honestly can’t believe you put the words “be realistic about it” in the context of Canada striking the US.

              If Europe didn’t do more than sending weapons to Ukraine. Why would they do anything more to Canada? Which, would be logistically, an almost impossible task.

              • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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                13 days ago

                Giving Russia control of the North Atlantic is a much bigger threat to Europe than giving them access to the Black Sea.

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                  What are you even talking about? Russia already have access to the Black Sea. And have had since the birth of their country.

                  And what do you even mean “give them control” of the North Atlantic? When was the last time you looked at a map of the globe?

      • @shalafi@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        US doctrine since WWII has been to have the muscle to fight on two major fronts and one brush fire. We’ve gone down to one major front.

      • @Jhex@lemmy.world
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        24 days ago

        what "front? there are already millions of Mexicans deep in the USA that would not stand for an attack on their country

        • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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          24 days ago

          Let’s entertain your idea here for a second. How do you think that’s going to go?

          My guess, the at the first hint of any type of insurrection, best case. Latinos and Japanese-Americans are gonna have something in common. Worst case; full blown ethnic cleaning carried out by local militias.

          I’m not condoning either. That’s just what I personally think might happen.

        • FenrirIII
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          -24 days ago

          You mean the country they willingly fled, often due to cartel violence?

          • @Jhex@lemmy.world
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            54 days ago

            the vast majority are economic migrants… and yes talk to any Mexican, they are loyal to Mexico, always and forever

    • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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      34 days ago

      If this was a competent president. I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt.

      But we all know Trump only cares about one thing. And it’s not the US. It’s himself.

      He may very well be under the impression that it will somehow give him more time in office, or it’s just some way for him to try and get better approval rating. How he is percieved by the US is of major importance to his ego.

      He hates how his approval is lower than Obamas. And he probably hates how his approval is lower than G.W.Busch.

      G.W.Busch had an approval rating of around ~60%. Then a certain incident happened and his approval went to as high as 92% at a certain time.

      Trump might, for some reason. Think that him starting/provoking a war will give him a similar boost.

      Ofc to you and me it sounds insane and we know that’s not going to improve his rating. But we are reasonable, normal people with common sense.