Easy questions have easy answers, right?

  • @MisterFrog@aussie.zone
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    32 days ago

    Just lie. There is absolutely nothing unethical about lying about timeframes on your resume.

    Looking for a job after being made redundant, but still in good standing with your former coworker or manager? Just say you still work there.

    Otherwise they’ll have way more leverage when it comes to salary negotiation.

    My friend did this when he got made redundant, landed a well paying job, after months of being unemployed.

    You have no reason to have a gap on your resume because you’ll be unfairly punished for it.

    Just lie. It’s 100% ethical.

    • @slappypantsgo@lemm.ee
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      95 days ago

      This can also help you filter the lunatics from the normal workplaces. In an interview, I once explained that I couldn’t discuss specifics of my client work because of confidentiality and NDAs, and they kept pushing. It wasn’t even the same industry! There was no obvious competitive advantage.

  • @Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    “I was unemployed”

    • Why?
    • Can they not even keep a job?

    “I took a sabbatical”

    • Mysterious
    • Arousing
    • Shows off the size of your enormous sack

    EDIT : When I took my sabbatical and I was dating at the same time, instead of being seen as a scruffy bum it actually did give an air of mystique, since most people at that age were not doing things like that.

      • @BussyCat@lemmy.world
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        285 days ago

        It depends on the context if you say you had an NDA and can’t elaborate at all on the details that’s a clear red flag as most NDAs you can at least give the context of what it is about I.e. specific job processes, witnesses an event, etc.

        If you say you worked for X company but can’t talk about the details of your work because of an NDA then that’s fine but they might call your old employer to verify you did really work there.

      • @mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        275 days ago

        For the most part, yes. They only really ask the question because they automatically assume you were in jail if you have a gap over 2’ish weeks long. So they’re really just looking for some sort of explanation besides “I was just unemployed for no reason.” Because they assume “no reason” is really “I don’t want to admit that I was in jail.”

        • Bio bronk
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          265 days ago

          Lol who tf actually thinks that. Ive hired and never thought that

          • 3DMVR
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            115 days ago

            yeah thats a wild assumption, maybe ppl just have enough money to survive for a while and dont want to work while they pursue hobbies, why is that not allowed, nah mustve been in jail

            • @mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              5 days ago

              maybe ppl just have enough money to survive for a while and dont want to work while they pursue hobbies

              The issue is that this is exactly what employers are trying to avoid. They want a good little worker bee who will show up every day and complete their tasks as assigned for 25 years straight. They don’t want someone who will just randomly decide to quit and focus on their hobbies. They want stability and predictability, because hiring new workers is a massive expense.

              • 3DMVR
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                35 days ago

                Because ppl expect/get more benefits and pay overtime

              • 3DMVR
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                25 days ago

                I thought it was worse to retain ppl long term and thats why they are constsntly firing ppl?

                • @b000rg@midwest.social
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                  75 days ago

                  It’s almost never actually a good business decision in the long-term to lose an employee, unless that employee is actually causing losses. All the layoffs of the past 50ish years from corporate downsizing is thanks to the business philosophy of Jack Welch. When you stop paying a large group of people, it looks good in the next quarterly meeting because you can point at the money you’re saving. The bad part is that now the business A) has lost that productivity, and B) will likely need to spend more money hiring a replacement worker who won’t be as competent.

          • @propaganja@lemmy.world
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            5 days ago

            Man, you must live a privileged life if it didn’t even cross your mind that jobs might exist where that is a legitimate concern.

            • Bio bronk
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              25 days ago

              What if a small gap on their resume means jail?? What the fuck are you on about

              • @propaganja@lemmy.world
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                Chill dude. I’m saying that there are jobs that employ people who often have a criminal history, and gaps in their employment record really often are because tey went to jail.

                So, even though you may not interview very many former criminals in your line of work, surely you shouldn’t be at a loss to understand why anyone would ever think that.

                • Bio bronk
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                  15 days ago

                  Im saying the hiring managers that think that are brain dead

        • Eager Eagle
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          115 days ago

          2 weeks is barely enough to get an interview. Who thinks jail? lmao

        • @turtlesareneat@discuss.online
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          125 days ago

          No NDA on earth prohibits giving a vague idea of what the duties and industry were. You may not be able to say the specific projects you worked on, or maybe even the name of the employer under extreme circumstances, but that would be like MI5 level rare, and those folks aren’t out applying for the jobs you are.

          The real trick is having an LLC so you can just point to that and say you were consulting or self-employed during that time. Or have a friend with one.

          • JackbyDev
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            35 days ago

            A buddy of mine had an LLC and I hired him to write my cover letter. He then had me fill some review about my experience with his company for some position he was applying for. I never lied, but the whole thing just felt so weird. But at the same time, that’s just normal. It’s not like he wasn’t capable of the work or something. He did a good job on my cover letter. He was a good grant writer before that. I just have that lingering Christian guilt that’s like “omg you’re doing something wrong! This is your conscience! Behave!”

        • JackbyDev
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          95 days ago

          I also just think it’s human nature to see something like 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 10 and say “where are 8nand 9?” It’s not necessarily an accusation or something. I’m not saying that never happens, some places and interviewers are awful. But I think a lot of people are just making sure there isn’t a typo or something.

    • @disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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      205 days ago

      You’d still be asked to provide start and end dates and place of employment if your work was confidential. If the NDA prohibits you from disclosing your employment entirely, it will typically include a restriction against disclosing the existence of the NDA itself.

        • @disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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          55 days ago

          I’d still ask follow-up questions. Was it in the public or private sector? What branch or industry? Were you in a leadership role, part of a team, or working as an individual contributor? What skills did you develop during that employment that would be beneficial to your employment in this role?

          • @Scubus@sh.itjust.works
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            24 days ago

            “I cannot answer any of those except the last one, which is that I learned how to avoid questions like these”

    • Camelbeard
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      75 days ago

      It was my sabbatical, and be really smug when you say it, like I’m better than you.

    • Psychadelligoat
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      54 days ago

      I totally had a guy catch and call me on that

      “Those 3 months I did consulting for a local elderly care facility, helping them learn some computer basics”

      “Sir, your parents don’t count” without missing a beat. I actually did help other people in that specific chunk he was asking about, but rude lol, and I think that might even be a big part of why I didn’t get that one tbh

  • Pennomi
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    735 days ago

    Haha, as if anyone actually asks that. A gap gets you automatically rejected by the employment AI, long before humans see it.

  • @disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    725 days ago

    FMLA is always a safe bet. Only one available to care for a dying family member buys sympathy and is an area they can’t legally ask any follow-up questions.

    Source: former corporate shill and interviewer

  • Lit
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    175 days ago

    If i have to explain the gap (which clearly means I was not employed), it means you are incompetent, you fail my interview, I don’t work with incompetent bosses.