• Nickolas Grigoriadis@mastodon.social
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    1 year ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social How to depend on Mozilla to keep on doing good work on Firefox without helping pushing the world more towards Chrome is my question.

    I can tell the common people to use Firefox, as it works and generally is still better than the Chrome monoculture (and from a privacy point) but any name they don’t instantly recognise just gets discarded.

  • Vincent Maurin@fosstodon.org
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    1 year ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social There two “nice” outcome of all this :

    • mozilla is going back to sanity
    • a fork is being create with most of the engineers currently working on Firefox move too

    The current “forks” alternative is not a real one. They just apply some small patches on top of Firefox, but not the “real” work of maintaining/evolving the core of the browser

  • Kirinn B.@social.linux.pizza
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    1 year ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social Thank you, this is pretty much exactly how I feel too; I’m very grateful for Mozilla’s historical contributions, but they keep being sus lately and this was finally the last straw. And I also settled on Floorp as a smooth short-term replacement. :)

    In the long term, Servo or Ladybird or something else is likely the way to go, but those are still at least a year away…

    A video on the various alt browsers would be definitely interesting!

  • RejZoR@mastodon.social
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    1 year ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social And use what? All the hundred Chrome forks? Or several Firefox forks that cannot exist on their own without Firefox and Mozilla? Firefox and Mozilla are a lesser evil. It’s not ideal, but I’d rather use tweaked Firefox than any Chrome fork or all the flawed Firefox forks. That’s just the reality.

    I personally can’t wait for Ladybird. A clean slate with no corporate background.

  • Molytov@infosec.exchange
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    1 year ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social I see a lot of people promoting Ladybird as a potential alternative, but when people rightfully point out the transphobic developer who is still kept as a maintainer, they just dismiss or attack them and just keep parroting the “software should be apolitical” bullshit. Unless they somehow work rapidly to completely cut out that toxicity, they’ll end up like so many other FOSS ventures - fostering a toxic community that just pushes away others and value “the technical stuff” more than people.

    Feels like we really are screwed and completely without any actual good options -_-.

  • maple@hear-me.social
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    1 year ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social You keep saying this but what is the option if you want a browser that looks and works like (past versions of) Firefox and you don’t want to have problems accessing sites, and you want to keep using all your Firefox extensions? Don’t say LibreWolf because a lot of sites won’t work with it (due in part to their overly aggressive privacy measures, that maybe can be disabled but only if you know how). As far as I can tell, every alternative people are suggesting has some drawback - some are major and some just really annoying.

    But also, if the issue is Firefox grabbing data of some kind and selling it, isn’t there some way to prevent that data from being transmitted to Mozilla, perhaps using something like PiHole or uBlock Origin? All the techie types think just switching browsers is a solution but for many users that’s a whole lot easier said than done, and none of the alternatives seem really great.

  • AurelDel@mastodon.online
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    1 year ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social You present a few alternatives (forks of Firefox) for the desktop, but is there anything to replace Firefox on mobile devices? Would any of these alternatives offer a synchronization of bookmarks and history between devices?

  • sebulon@mastodon.social
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    1 year ago

    @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social If Mozilla really pivots into harvesting user data to sell to AI companies for profit then it’s time to switch but I’ll keep using it for the time being and see how it works out.

    Speaking of email clients, I’ve been using Evolution for what seems like forever now. Tried Thunderbird a couple of times but always keep coming back.