Im having beers at bar ordered wings and tipped $2 everything the bartender brings me.
Beer = $6
tip for beer $2
wings = $20ish
Tip for wings from bartender = $2
Total tips = $4
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Same order from waitress/er = $26
Tip = $5.20
Now I know this is micro example but extrapolate this over several drinks with food and the difference swings the other way. The question remains tho, am I tipping correctly?
The quality of service post covid is an abomination
People over tipped and the service staff got a strong feeling of entitlement
Now this needs to be rolled back. Boycot as much as possible when you do go out tip 15% on base price for food.
They try to use the PoS machines, take the time to fix the tip. Make it uncomfortable for the waiter.
Saying that the service staff have a feeling of entitlement gives off the biggest dickhead energy I’ve seen in my life.
“Oh those uppity servers with their cushy food service jobs think they deserve a tip, they only made it through a plague because they were deemed essential they didn’t do much”
It’s not the service people that’s the problem, it’s a combination of the people not paying a living wage for these jobs and a bunch of other industries getting in on tipping culture to pad their wallets.
Unless the person owns the business that server or cashier doesn’t even have a day in whether the POS has a tipping screen or not.
You’re a fucking idiot working a shit job and protecting the people who fuck you over.
Tipping is wrong on every level and needs to be abolished. The OP is wild in itself, you give an extra $2 to someone for the mere service of pouring you a drink in a bar. People outside the US just scoff, it’s madness.
And don’t give me the ‘oh but people need it to live, you’re an asshole’, go read my comment again.
The only way you’ll ever get rid of tipping culture and not paying living wages because of tipping is to stop tipping. By tipping you’re reinforcing that it’s acceptable practice for businesses to rely on their customers donating to their staff in order for the staff to make a decent wage.
If everyone stopped tipping, businesses would have to pay higher wages.
I disagree. You’d have to organize a national movement with a majority of the relevant population onboard. Can’t even get people to vote. Good luck.
You disagree with what? That it’s how you would get rid of tipping culture? Or that it’s possible?
I’m an American and I hate tipping culture. I don’t believe your solution to getting rid of tipping culture is viable. I think we collectively as a culture would need to agree not to tip, which isn’t going to happen. A much easier way would be through legislation and forcing employers to pay fair wages. I don’t think customers would be inclined to tip someone making a fair wage. If this thread and hundreds like them on Lemmy and Reddit are any indication, people are generally guilted into tipping because wait staff makes $2/hour or whatever in the states.
That’s what I’m saying.
Not with that attitude it won’t!
Then you get into the other massive issues - define “fair”. Who defines what is a fair wage? Is it just minimum wage enforcement? If you raise the minimum wage for servers then you have to raise it almost everywhere else, which will fuel massive inflation and job losses.
But when you tip you have no idea what the servers wage is.
Also as someone else pointed out in here, some states tried to get rid of tipping by raising the minimum wage of these servers and they complained so much the government abandoned it.
Sorry, I should have said living wage. Like what an actual minimum wage should be, calculated based on the average cost of basic necessities. (Food, housing etc…) With geography included. Pretty basic stuff. Like how the minimum wage in CA is 16.50$? Of course some servers would be upset - if you’re valet or a server at a fine dining restaurant you’re making significantly more than a server at a working class chain for doing essentially the same job. That’s dumb. Also, I’d posit there are a lot more people against tips than for tips, which makes legislation a possibility.
How/why would inflation be out of control? The cooks don’t get tips, the managers don’t get tips, the dishwashers don’t get tips. They’re paid a wage. Some restaurants in the US already do this. I have one near me.
I do know what the server’s wage is where I live - It’s $2.83/hour, with a maximum tip cover of $4.42 to bring to minimum wage, which isn’t even close to a liveable wage, since minimum wage hasn’t been adjusted since '09 and it was too low then. Plus they have no health insurance or other benefits (average cost is $9k for solo/$25k for families).
I’m not inclined to tip when I visit Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Switzerland, Denmark etc… because their servers make liveable wages and they have healthcare and other benefits provided by their governments.
That’s my experience over last 1-2 years.
If you have had positive experiences, you are free to tip whatever is demanded.
If I am not getting decent services, I am done rewarding bad behavior.
Game 101. Social pressure does not work on me.
Game 101? Wow, every comment worse “social pressure doesn’t work on me” you aren’t tipping Batman, you aren’t tipping Joker, you’re just a jerk who should be eating at home.
10% now 🐸
At least that’s something, I doubt you do that cause I’ve already seen your justification. Honestly the person handing you drink after drink at the bar, wondering if they need to finally cut you off doesn’t care. I’m guessing they’re just happy to be rid of you. Eat alone isn’t advice I need to give you… is it?
Children. Name calling isn’t something anyone else wants to see. If a weak insult is all you have to say then just ignore them.
It’s super fun, though! Especially when the other person actually has a personality and is willing to mix it up.
is this supposed to be some sort of social pressure?
hehe
No,i just find you personally distasteful and don’t mind that you know it.
You should honestly stop going out at all, the person who is broken post covid is you. You’re taking it out on random wait staff you are choosing to patronize. Make your food yourself, drink your drinks at home, then the only person you’re making miserable is the person in the mirror.
You left out the part that is actually being tipped for, bringing the food to you. The chefs are salary.
People should be able to go out and buy thenfood at the prices listed.
Agreed, the entire system of tipping the American way should be fucking illegal. Wait staff should earn a living wage. I think it’s way more complicated than that, and you see pushback from the owners and the servers, and any movements to change it haven’t had enough backing socially to change anything.
But that’s kinda how it works, you choose to engage with it by going to an establishment with enployees that rely on tips. I mean hell, most of the time if you have a bad experience it’s due to something the waiter can’t control. Kitchen issues, staffing levels, poorly handled rushes. Being gleeful about how little you tip because of how things have changed… just don’t go out. Avoid having a shitty experience and being a shitty experience for someone else.
Note that a lot of places tips don’t go directly to wait stuff, it is being shared to subsidize salaries of everyone. Sometimes even boss man takes a cut.
If your tip is being taxed, thats guaranteed what is happening.
Pretty sure the boss cant take tips legally speaking. Tax the income, let the business survive based on its ability to cover its costs.
If it is a service charge, they can take 100% of everything
Even if it is not taxed, they do tip shares which can be also illegal.
But government don’t give a fuck if owners fuck peasants
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This is for you love! So, at least one of your interactions wasn’t shitty in your life ❤️.