What’s up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It’s not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

  • @CybranM@feddit.nu
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    -45 days ago

    Why on Earth would you not trust Chinese citizens to respond honestly?

    Yeah I wonder why

    Would you class the western oppression of dissent to be on the same level as that famous student protest in China?

    • Cowbee [he/they]
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      35 days ago

      I’d say western oppression of dissent is at the same level or greater than the PRC, yes. Most importantly, the west is made up of dictatorships of capital, while the working class is in power in the PRC, meaning there are more people that oppose the system in the west than in China.

      • @CybranM@feddit.nu
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        -45 days ago

        Alright, I’d rather get some water cannon and tear gas thrown at me than being run over by an APC or shot but to each their own I suppose.

          • @CybranM@feddit.nu
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            -45 days ago

            I don’t live in the US lol, I dont like them either

            You bringing a single video of a police car where none of the protestors (who are surrounding the police car and being aggressive) got run over to show how comparable it is Tiananmen is laughable. But yes the rEd ScArE is clouding my judgement

            • Cowbee [he/they]
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              35 days ago

              The riots around Beijing in 1989 were also aggressive. The protestors were firebombing and lynching unarmed PLA officers. That doesn’t mean the hundreds of deaths that day aren’t tragic, but it wasn’t the kind of wholesome, peaceful liberal protests the west makes it out to be. Today, protests against western states are met with violent crackdowns, police running over protestors, and more. The PRC on the other hand has an incredibly low crime rate, solves crime non-violently when possible, and has far more support by the people in the first place.

              You have no points. You don’t believe Chinese people, you don’t trust statistics, all you have is chauvanism, believing you know better than the people of China how they should govern themselves and who they should support.

                • Cowbee [he/they]
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                  35 days ago

                  How many videos do you want? Florida makes it explicitly legal to do so.

                  All you’re saying is that you don’t trust western polls, eastern polls, or any statistics whatsoever. It’s willing blindness. What would it take to convince you that the people of China support their system if you don’t trust them at their word?

                  China is a democracy for the people, not a dictatorship of capital like western countries. You have no points, you don’t trust Chinese people.