• @BroBot9000@lemmy.world
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    Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

    Ai is literally making people dumber:

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf

    https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/18/is_ai_changing_our_brains/

    They are a massive privacy risk:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=3015s

    https://theconversation.com/ai-tools-collect-and-store-data-about-you-from-all-your-devices-heres-how-to-be-aware-of-what-youre-revealing-251693

    Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

    https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

    And they are a massive environmental disaster:

    https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/

    Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.

    Edit: thank you to every Ai apologist outing themselves in the comments. Thank you for making blocking you easy.

    • @FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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      Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

      We don’t need a collection of random ‘AI bad’ articles because your entire premise is flawed.

      In general, people are not ‘sick of LLM and Ai slop’. Real people, who are not chronically online, have fairly positive views of AI and public sentiment about AI is actually becoming more positive over time.

      Here is Stanford’s report on the public opinion regarding AI (https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2024-ai-index-report/public-opinion).

      Stop being a corporate apologist and stop wreaking the environment with this shit technology.

      My dude, it sounds like you need to go out into the environment a bit more.

      • @mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        06 days ago

        We don’t need a collection of random ‘AI bad’ articles because your entire premise is flawed.

        god forbid you have evidence to support your premise. huh.

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        My dude, it sounds like you need to go out into the environment a bit more.

        oh you have a spare ecosystem in the closet for when this one is entirely fucked huh? https://www.npr.org/2024/09/11/nx-s1-5088134/elon-musk-ai-xai-supercomputer-memphis-pollution

        stop acting like it’s a rumor. the problem is real, it’s already here, they’re already crashing to build the data centers - so what, we can get taylor swift grok porn? nothing in that graph supports your premise either.

        That’s stanford graph is based on queries from 2022 and 2023 - it’s 2025 here in reality. Wake up. Times change.

        • @FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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          That’s stanford graph is based on queries from 2022 and 2023 - it’s 2025 here in reality. Wake up. Times change

          Objective polling shows attitudes about AI were improving. Do you have any actual evidence to support your implication that this is no longer the case?

          Being self-righteous, rude and abrasive doesn’t mean you’re correct.

          • @mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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            You disregard everyone else’s evidence but expect us to embrace your two year old data.

            you disregard what mental health experts are saying this is doing to actual people.

            You callously disregard the wellbeing of others for the benefit of aibros. Just because you’re ignoring the evidence doesn’t mean you’re correct numpty. Being willfully ignorant of the harms caused to the environment from this just tells me you’re profiting off of it, or a fanboy.

    • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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      You’re repeating debunked claims that are being pushed by tech giants to lobby for laws to monopolize AI control.

      I’d rather read AI crap than this idiocy.

    • @Electricd@lemmybefree.net
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      Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

      Everything can be used for that. If anything, I believe AI models are too restricted and tend not to argue on controversial subjects, which prevents you from learning anything. Censorship sucks

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      They are a massive privacy risk:

      I do agree on this, but at this point everyone uses instagram, snapchat, discord and whatever to share their DMs which are probably being sniffed by the NSA and used by companies for profiling. People are never going to change.

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      Ai is literally making people dumber: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf

      We surveyed 319 knowledge workers who use GenAI tools (e.g., ChatGPT, Copilot) at work at least once per week, to model how they enact critical thinking when using GenAI tools, and how GenAI affects their perceived effort of thinking critically. Analysing 936 real-world GenAI tool use examples our participants shared, we find that knowledge workers engage in critical thinking primarily to ensure the quality of their work, e.g. by verifying outputs against external sources. Moreover, while GenAI can improve worker efficiency, it can inhibit critical engagement with work and can potentially lead to long-term overreliance on the tool and diminished skill for independent problem-solving. Higher confidence in GenAI’s ability to perform a task is related to less critical thinking effort. When using GenAI tools, the effort invested in critical thinking shifts from information gathering to information verification; from problem-solving to AI response integration; and from task execution to task stewardship. Knowledge workers face new challenges in critical thinking as they incorporate GenAI into their knowledge workflows. To that end, our work suggests that GenAI tools need to be designed to support knowledge workers’ critical thinking by addressing their awareness, motivation, and ability barriers.

      I would not say “can potentially lead to long-term overreliance on the tool and diminished skill for independent problem-solving” equals to “literally making people dumber”. A sample size of 319 isn’t really representative anyways, and they mainly had a sample of a specific type of people. People switch from searching to verifying, which doesn’t sound too bad if done correctly. They associate critical thinking with verifying everything (“Higher confidence in GenAI’s ability to perform a task is related to less critical thinking effort”), not sure I agree on this.

      This study is also only aimed at people working instead of regular use. I personally discovered so many things with GenAI, and know to always question what the model says when it comes to specific topics or questions, because they tend to hallucinate. You could also say internet made people dumber, but those who know how to use it will be smarter.

      https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/18/is_ai_changing_our_brains/

      They had to write an essay in 20 minutes… obviously most people would just generate the whole thing and fix little problems here and there, but if you have to think less because you’re just fixing stuff instead on inventing… well yea, you use your brain less. Doesn’t make you dumb? It’s a bit like saying paying by card makes you dumber because you use less of your brain compared to paying in cash because you have to count how much you need to give, and how much you need to get back.

      Yes, if you get helped by a tool or someone, it will be less intensive for your brain. Who would have thought?!

    • @lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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      18 days ago

      Do you really need to have a list of why people are sick of LLM and Ai slop?

      With the number of times that refrain is regurgitated here ad nauseum, need is an odd way to put it. Sick of it might fit sentiments better. Done with this & not giving a shit is another.

        • @lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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          OK, but you’re just making yourselves lolcows at this point where you announce these easy-to-push buttons & people derive joy from pushing them. Imitating AI just to troll is a thing now.

          So…that’s a victory?

    • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      Ai is literally making people dumber:

      And books destroyed everyone’s memory. People used to have fantastic memories.

      They are a massive privacy risk:

      No different than the rest of cloud tech. Run your AI local like your other self hosting.

      Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

      Hitler used radio to push fascism into every home. It’s not the medium, it’s the message.

      And they are a massive environmental disaster:

      AI uses a GPU just like gaming uses a GPU. Building a new AI model uses the same energy that Rockstar spent developing GTA5. But it’s easier to point at a centralized data center polluting the environment than thousands of game developers spread across multiple offices creating even more pollution.

      Stop being a corporate apologist

      Run your own AI! Complaining about “corporate AI” is like complaining about corporate email. Host it yourself.

      • @JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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        Run your own AI!

        Oh sure, let me just pull a couple billion out of the couch cushions to spin up a data center in the middle of the desert.

        • @Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world
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          Comments like this remind me of all the blockchain hate. People with no idea what they were talking about inventing justifications for hating something they were unwilling to understand. There are so many legitimate reasons to criticize both and people still make shit up on the fly.

        • @FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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          Oh sure, let me just pull a couple billion out of the couch cushions to spin up a data center in the middle of the desert.

          From my, very much not in a data center, desktop PC:

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        Weird … It looks like there’s nothing stopping me from signing up for an account on dbzer0 even though I’m not actually an anarchist.

    • @AnonomousWolf@lemmy.world
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      If you ever take a flight for holiday, or even drive long distance and cry about AI being bad for the environment then you’re a hypocrite.

      Same goes for if you eat beef, or having a really powerful gaming rig that you use a lot.

      There are plenty of valid reasons AI is bad, but the argument for the environment seems weak, and most people using it are probably hypocrites. It’s barely a drop in the bucket compared to other things

      • @Jankatarch@lemmy.world
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        Texas has just asked residents to take less showers while datacenters made specifically for LLM training continue operating.

        This is more like feeling bad for not using a paper straw while local factory dumps all their oil change into the community river.

      • @BroBot9000@lemmy.world
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        Ahh so are you going to acknowledge the privacy invasion and brain rotting cause by Ai or are you just going to focus on dismissing the environmental concerns? Cause I linked more than just the environmental impacts.

        • @Draces@lemmy.world
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          Uh dismissing that concern seems like valid point? Do people have to comprehensively discredit the whole list to reply?

      • @SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world
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        Hypocrisy can be called the primitive nature of man who chooses what is easier because he is designed that way. Human is like a cancerous tumor for the planet.

        • @CXORA@aussie.zone
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          97 days ago

          When someone disagrees with me - echo chamber.

          When someone agrees with me - logical discussion.

          • @Sl00k@programming.dev
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            Then why are you guys avoiding a logical discussion around environmental impact instead of spouting misinformation?

            The fact of the matter is eating a single steak or lb of ground beef will eclipse all most peoples AI usage. Obviously most can’t escape driving, but for those of us in cities biking will far eclipse your environmental impact than not using AI.

            Serving AI models aren’t even as bad as watching Netflix, this counterculture to AI is largely misdirected anger that thrown towards unregulated capitalism. Unregulated data centers. Unregulated growth.

            Training is bad but training is a small piece of the puzzle that happens infrequently, and again circles back to the unregulated problem.

            • @CXORA@aussie.zone
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              It is easier to oppose a new thing than change ingrained habits.

              If your house is on fire, it is reasonable to be mad at someone who throws a little torch onto it.