• @Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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    1711 days ago

    Sadly, I am. There are laws about how the animals can be put down and though they are not what I would want them to be, they do at least somewhat limit the cruelty inherent in the process.

    • @OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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      111 days ago

      How they’re “put down” (that’s a very kind euphemism) is only part of the problem. It’s how they’re forced to live

      That’s their entire life.

      • @Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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        2611 days ago

        Right, so it doesn’t matter what Noem did, because there is already so much cruelty out there? Why are people defending her cruelty by pointing out the existence of institutional cruelty? They are both bad. One does not refute the other.

    • @JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
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      Between what the law says and what actually happens, there is a yawning gulf. It’s the same in basically all jurisdictions where there are animal-welfare laws. The meat industry is powerful and consumers are unrelenting in their clamor for cheap meat. With such incentives, the weakest link is always going to be animals, which by definition have no voice.

    • That Weird Vegan
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      11 days ago

      i feel like you’re a tad misinformed. They are super cruel to the animals. They split families up. They kill animals when they’re still children. They castrate pigs without anaesthetic. They cut off the beaks of chickens so they don’t peck each other. They throw male chicks into a giant masher ALIVE. How is that not cruel beyond cruel?

      • @Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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        1611 days ago

        So because there are institutional scale cruelties like this, then it doesn’t matter that a person in a position high in the American government is bragging about her personal cruelty to animals? I am simply pointing out her failings in this regard and you are telling me what? It doesn’t matter what she did because there’s already a lot of cruelty out there?

        • That Weird Vegan
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          -1411 days ago

          I didn’t say it doesn’t matter. I was merely pointing out that cunts will be like “THAT POOR DOG” then go home and eat a cow steak who was also tortured.

          • @Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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            1211 days ago

            That’s kind of the point of the article I linked to. Yeah, everyone is upset about Cricket, but the goat matters too.

            • That Weird Vegan
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              -711 days ago

              the goat definitely matters. S/he lived a life that was important to them. I wasn’t trying to minimise the goat’s life.

              • @samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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                1811 days ago

                You used an individual animal’s tragic death to stand on a soapbox and denounce the animal agriculture industry. It’s a bit like being told a child died and saying, “Are you aware of what happens to children in Gaza??”

                You don’t need to make everything about your personal (plant-based imitation) beef with humans eating meat.

            • @13igTyme@lemmy.world
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              -211 days ago

              I think insults can be justified if the other person is brain dead and you are still attacking the argument.