i absolutely hate how the modern web just fails to load if one has javascript turned off. i, as a user, should be able to switch off javascript and have the site work exactly as it does with javascript turned on. it’s not a hard concept, people.

but you ask candidates to explain “graceful degradation” and they’ll sit and look at you with a blank stare.

  • Björn Tantau
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    1024 days ago

    Most websites out there could work fine without JavaScript. They rely on it because they can’t be bothered to be better.

    • Possibly linux
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      24 days ago

      Have you ever tried building a modern page without JavaScript.

      You can do a lot of things with HTML5 and CSS. It just is very complicated and painful. It isn’t intuitive and the behavior will vary across browsers. What could be a little JavaScript turns into a ton of write only CSS.

      • Björn Tantau
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        524 days ago

        Yes, that’s my job.

        The point isn’t to emulate the JavaScript functionality somehow. The point is to simply fetch the desired information as a new page load when necessary. The page should work in lynx.

      • @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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        117 days ago

        sure, it’s painful and pointless to build a fucking virtual machine without JS, but you can do 95% of normal website things with pretty bog standard HTML+CSS these days. You don’t even have to fiddle about to do pretty complex things, that’s just built-in most of the time.