Must be nice to be of the ownership/wealthy classes and be able to move away from the fascists during their rise to power. The rest of us will have to do our best to remember our own humanity while we watch people become nazis and trade their humanity away before the leopards eat their faces.
Ironically, our king has incredibly limited power that is enforced by a strong belief that religion should be separate from politics and an independent judiciary. Your king doesn’t seem to have the same hurdles
Oh 100%, I’m a republican (lowercase R, in the British sense). I just find it ironic that the US portrays itself as having removed monarchy, when it was just replaced with dictator that has a term limit
For now, yeah. I mean there is no such place as a safe or “good” nation. Every one of them will hold you at gunpoint demanding money so they can build a library.
But actively and swiftly the US is going full nazi. If one leaves I don’t blame them.
For now, yeah. I mean there is no such place as a safe or “good” nation. Every one of them will hold you at gunpoint demanding money so they can build a library.
I’m not sure where the “gunpoint” part came from, but do you…not like libraries?
hahahah I love libraries. It’s a “reductio ad absurdum” that shows how a lack of tax payment will, eventually, result in a state destroying your everything, and when cops show up, it’s always at gunpoint. (at least in the US)
Before you get to thinking I’m a libertarian, recall I mentioned all nation states are bad.
Yup fuck these richies that flee with their money they made from being the spokespersons of the minority class they represent. They should stay and help fund the resistance but instead they say FYIGM.
I’ve seen a lot of comments on the Fediverse about people who have moved or aspire to move from red states to blue states. I hope they get the same level of vitriol in the future, just to keep things consistent.
if they are mega-millionaires and make it known, then absolutely they will. You might take notice how the average scholars, MD’s, and PHD’s that are also fleeing aren’t getting such hate.
You hope my wife and I get the same level of vitriol because we want to move to a state that won’t condemn her to death in the, likely for my wife, event that there are complications during a pregnancy???
It was sarcasm. Commenter was quick to judge others for leaving an unfavorable environment instead of staying to fight. The reality is not everyone wants to put themselves and their families in danger for the cause.
For real, especially with kids. They didn’t do anything to deserve it. Nor did kids with poorer parents but if your argument is that everyone needs to suffer together, that’s not a convincing one.
Former moderator FlyingSquid moved to the UK from the US to protect a transgender child. I hadn’t thought about it before now, but he must be part of the Ownership class.
yes. but even rich artists become owner class when they transition to having staff they hold the hiring/firing power over. it’s not about the amount of money so much as it is the methods by which it is acquired. (im not disagreeing with your reply)
He had enough British ancestry that he was able to get a citizenship (or already had dual citizenship? I dunno). Think that was the only reason for choosing the UK in particular over any other European country.
Must be nice to be of the ownership/wealthy classes and be able to move away from the fascists during their rise to power. The rest of us will have to do our best to remember our own humanity while we watch people become nazis and trade their humanity away before the leopards eat their faces.
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Ironically, our king has incredibly limited power that is enforced by a strong belief that religion should be separate from politics and an independent judiciary. Your king doesn’t seem to have the same hurdles
Yeah the Constitution has deep abiding flaws the fuck do you want me to do, vote? I’ve voted for 20yrs now
I still think monarchy is trash and this argument sucks. Im gonna keep working toward something better.
Oh 100%, I’m a republican (lowercase R, in the British sense). I just find it ironic that the US portrays itself as having removed monarchy, when it was just replaced with dictator that has a term limit
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Dont get too high on your horse, the UK is just as fucked as the US is.
For now, yeah. I mean there is no such place as a safe or “good” nation. Every one of them will hold you at gunpoint demanding money so they can build a library.
But actively and swiftly the US is going full nazi. If one leaves I don’t blame them.
I’m not sure where the “gunpoint” part came from, but do you…not like libraries?
hahahah I love libraries. It’s a “reductio ad absurdum” that shows how a lack of tax payment will, eventually, result in a state destroying your everything, and when cops show up, it’s always at gunpoint. (at least in the US)
Before you get to thinking I’m a libertarian, recall I mentioned all nation states are bad.
I’m not sure what you’re advocating for instead of nations. Roving bands of nomads?
I mean … yes. (syndicalism) But this isn’t the thread for that.
Who is paying for libraries under your preferred system?
Local community members through fair, equitable, democratic, and at-will membership in the community. Co-ops are not a new idea.
Syndacalism isn’t roving bands of nomads.
That is correct. Why do folks here seem to want doctoral level dissertations in the replies.
| I mean there is no such place as a safe or “good” nation.
you must not know many countries then or your definition of a good country must be weird.
name me one without a history of war, slavery, genocide, or colonialism. bonus points if its entire history has allowed gay people to exist.
so if a country has ever been bad in its history, it’s automatically also bad now? so, as i suspected your definition of a good country is weird.
there are no good nation states. and to your first question: correct.
Is there any human society that doesn’t have a history that can be traced back far enough to find war or violence?
not that I reckon. however that fact does not mean modern nation states are cool.
Yup fuck these richies that flee with their money they made from being the spokespersons of the minority class they represent. They should stay and help fund the resistance but instead they say FYIGM.
I’ve seen a lot of comments on the Fediverse about people who have moved or aspire to move from red states to blue states. I hope they get the same level of vitriol in the future, just to keep things consistent.
if they are mega-millionaires and make it known, then absolutely they will. You might take notice how the average scholars, MD’s, and PHD’s that are also fleeing aren’t getting such hate.
False equivalence.
You hope my wife and I get the same level of vitriol because we want to move to a state that won’t condemn her to death in the, likely for my wife, event that there are complications during a pregnancy???
I hope you have the day you wish upon others.
It was sarcasm. Commenter was quick to judge others for leaving an unfavorable environment instead of staying to fight. The reality is not everyone wants to put themselves and their families in danger for the cause.
I see; please take this and this, it’s dangerous to go alone!
For real, especially with kids. They didn’t do anything to deserve it. Nor did kids with poorer parents but if your argument is that everyone needs to suffer together, that’s not a convincing one.
ellen is also a terrible person behind scenes of her show.
Former moderator FlyingSquid moved to the UK from the US to protect a transgender child. I hadn’t thought about it before now, but he must be part of the Ownership class.
two things can be true at the same time. some of us can afford it. some of us can’t.
ellen certainly can. ellen is not working class.
Her money came from working, not ownership, inheritance, or management. She’s rich, but still working class.Correction: Between the record company and “ED by Ellen” brand, she’s been a member of the capitalist class since at least 2010
yes. but even rich artists become owner class when they transition to having staff they hold the hiring/firing power over. it’s not about the amount of money so much as it is the methods by which it is acquired. (im not disagreeing with your reply)
From what little interaction I had with FlyingSquid, it seemed like his family was very working class and the move to the UK took a lot of sacrifice.
Ellen on the other hand has a net worth in the hundreds of millions and thus was never in any real danger in the US because of her sexuality.
oh, wow. I thought they were still in Terre Haute. Good for them, though I don’t understand what’s so attractive about the U.K.
Most people go where they have an opportunity. Either they have citizenship already or a pathway (like a parent) to it.
Although being stupid rich will get you access just about anywhere.
He had enough British ancestry that he was able to get a citizenship (or already had dual citizenship? I dunno). Think that was the only reason for choosing the UK in particular over any other European country.