I agree, but those who own like 2 or so houses are literally not the main problem. We can work on abolishing them at a later point, but until then we can ignore them.
but if we eliminate corporate landlords, that industry will be taken by smaller landlords and you haven’t really fixed the problem, just replaced a handful of corporations with a few thousands of landlords doing the same shit.
Its much harder to enshittify a market when you dont have a monopoly, so it does improve the situation. But yeah, longterm we definitely have to act against those too.
we could go into a very nice debate, but I think the economical forces that push for enshitification will still be there even if you break monopolies or large corporations. It will likely be slower without shareholders demanding permanent growth. but the landlord greed is still there.
part of the reason house prices are always on the up, is because they agree considered an investment not a basic necessity. so there’s no interest in building more.
a house shouldn’t cost more than construction cost.
Exactly. I’m living in a triplex that sold for $1.4 million last year. My rent is less than 1/3 a 30 year mortgage (with a 3.5% down payment). My old landlord set the right price. I hope my new landlord does the same.
It still staggers me how quickly some people’s opinions on landlords changes when they see the money. A bunch of otherwise stand up fellas are now dreaming of using their retirement investments to ‘buy some houses, rent them out for the passive income,’ and another of the group who says his dream is to buy/own an apartment complex, all the while salivating at the money.
Most of us are trying to play in a game we hate… where not playing means suffering. I don’t really see just owning rental properties to be worthy of the billionaire boil. Hold them accountable for every scummy practice and ounce of harm caused by greed seeking, but not merely for renting housing out.
Depends what you define as landlord.
Guy who owns 2-3 duplexes in the city? Nah.
Big time landlord who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars from thousands of properties? BOIL EM!!!
the guy who owns 2-3 duplexes can (and are incentivised) to be as cruel and inhumane as possible by the same capitalist forces.
if you ask me, rent shouldn’t be a thing. once you paid the value of the house in rent you should be able to claim it as your own.
I agree, but those who own like 2 or so houses are literally not the main problem. We can work on abolishing them at a later point, but until then we can ignore them.
I’ll concede that they aren’t the “main” problem.
but if we eliminate corporate landlords, that industry will be taken by smaller landlords and you haven’t really fixed the problem, just replaced a handful of corporations with a few thousands of landlords doing the same shit.
Its much harder to enshittify a market when you dont have a monopoly, so it does improve the situation. But yeah, longterm we definitely have to act against those too.
we could go into a very nice debate, but I think the economical forces that push for enshitification will still be there even if you break monopolies or large corporations. It will likely be slower without shareholders demanding permanent growth. but the landlord greed is still there.
Based on that definition you never stop paying. Homes values constantly go up. My dad bought a house in the 1970s. 33k.
Today the house has a value of 300k. Took him 30 years to pay off the original mortgage.
part of the reason house prices are always on the up, is because they agree considered an investment not a basic necessity. so there’s no interest in building more.
a house shouldn’t cost more than construction cost.
Exactly. I’m living in a triplex that sold for $1.4 million last year. My rent is less than 1/3 a 30 year mortgage (with a 3.5% down payment). My old landlord set the right price. I hope my new landlord does the same.
1.4 million for a triplex??? That’s like…40k where I live.
It’s a 1970’s build too. Other triplexes are selling for way more or just less than that individually.
But this is in Seattle.
It still staggers me how quickly some people’s opinions on landlords changes when they see the money. A bunch of otherwise stand up fellas are now dreaming of using their retirement investments to ‘buy some houses, rent them out for the passive income,’ and another of the group who says his dream is to buy/own an apartment complex, all the while salivating at the money.
Most of us are trying to play in a game we hate… where not playing means suffering. I don’t really see just owning rental properties to be worthy of the billionaire boil. Hold them accountable for every scummy practice and ounce of harm caused by greed seeking, but not merely for renting housing out.
Yeah. We give the guy who owns 2-3 duplexes the chance to work and return the years of labor he stole from others. His sins can be still be repaid.
But if he resist. Well…
https://youtu.be/OjNpRbNdR7E