• @21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com
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    110 days ago

    Isn’t water itself the pretty literal definition of 0 and it doesn’t become one or the other until it’s a solution with something else?

        • @wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
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          10 days ago

          Well, yes and no. The pH scale follows the hydrogen ion concentration, but specifically in aqueous media. The reason 7 is in the “middle” of the scale is because the natural dissociation of water sits at equilibrium at 10^-7 M H+ at 298K, IIRC. So perturbations naturally just displace that specific equilibrium, so it absolutely is normative to water.

          • NielsBohron
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            29 days ago

            Interestingly enough, in other solvents a neutral pH is going to be a different value. IIRC, ammonia has an autoionization constant of 10^-30, so a neutral pH would be 15

          • @CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world
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            110 days ago

            By that definition, it can’t be exactly 7 then either. 10^-7 is just an estimate that we’ve agreed works fine. To my knowledge we haven’t really tried to improve this accuracy either?

            • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]
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              810 days ago

              The exact value varies with temperature, so it’s a “good enough for the typical variations in temperature experienced by most aqueous solutions” estimate.