• @Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
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    013 days ago

    Declining population, my ass. There were less than 4.5 billion people on the planet when I was born. That fash-hole is only worried that white people will represent a minority of the future population. Nothing more.

    • @douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      Decline population is an actual thing…? Not defending this asshole or anything but your statement is seemingly based off of a lack of information.

      Birth rates in many developed countries are incredibly low well below maintenance levels. Meaning that aside from immigration the population in most developed countries is actually going down quite rapidly.

      Which given the way our societies and financial systems are structured generally means some form of disaster for those countries if such decline occurs.

      There’s even a pretty good recent video talking about what this looks like in South Korea

      Blue indicates below replacement levels:

      • @Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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        -113 days ago

        Still one billion in 1804
        two billion in 1927
        three billion in 1960
        four billion in 1974
        five billion in 1987
        six billion in 1999
        seven billion in 2011
        eight billion in 2022

        Already too many for my taste.
        And no to all, don’t react with irrelevant “there’s enough food for…” or Malthusian bla bla

        • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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          013 days ago

          And no to all, don’t react with irrelevant “there’s enough food for…” or Malthusian bla bla

          So, don’t bother you with the downside of what’s actually going to happen? What’s in the middle of happening? You’re just going to do a little cherry-picking, then tell us don’t bother you with facts?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBudghsdByQ

          You can already see it in real time by looking at the demographics in South Korea and Japan. The only reason the numbers are offset is that a few countries are still net positive enough to offset them.

          Our great-grandkids are in for one hell of a ride. If we let it drop enough, they’ll be in forced breeding situations.

          • @Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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            -113 days ago

            A world with a lot less people sounds like a dream TBH.
            No overcrowded cities, no chasing animals of their land or destroying it for resources, etc…

              • @Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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                -113 days ago

                You sure have a sunny outlook.
                And it’s really going great now with all those people and their economies

                • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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                  013 days ago

                  My outlook is based on studies, and this crap is studied a lot. and also on readily observable evidence.

                  It’s dire, and it’s not based on my opinion.

                  • @Bloomcole@lemm.ee
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                    -113 days ago

                    Studies have been wrong before.
                    Some things are foreseable, “the future” is a combination of plenty variables and impossible to predict.
                    The single subject of population isn’t even simple.
                    Little anecdote: I found an old school book, you know based on studies, and it had predictions for 15 years.
                    They were off by a billion.
                    Whatever it is, I’m not going to be a nihilist or fatalist for reasons and issues I have zero control over.
                    I am living now and do the best with what I got.

                • @Zorque@lemmy.world
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                  012 days ago

                  The only reason to believe it would be better with less people is delusional fantasy.

                  The problem isn’t population, it’s policy.