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To be America's enemy is dangerous, but to be its ally is fatal

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To be America's enemy is dangerous, but to be its ally is fatal

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  • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    I get what you’re saying, but to clarify I was speaking of the 2014 Maidan Coup where the US installed a far-right puppet government.

    • @alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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      Sure, and Russia had their right-wing coup in 1991, and America is currently doing a self-coup.

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        People get these confused a lot, but russia has 2 coups in the 90s-

        1991 was a failed anti-reformist “left wing” coup that deposed Gorbachev and ended with the fall of the USSR and Yeltsin in power.

        1993 was a successful right wing self-coup that allowed Yeltsin to fully consolidate power away from the Russian parliament and towards the presidency. More hamfisted and violent, but in essence similar to what is happening in the US right now

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        The US was taken over in a coup when Kennedy was assassinated. We’ve been ruled by the CIA & Mossad ever since.

        • @alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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          Eh, while they’re part of maintaining the status quo, we’re ruled by capital, and that was true before Kennedy too.

          • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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            And the CIA has always been an attack dog of the capitalists. That’s its whole mission.

      • @eluvinar@szmer.info
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        Self-coup would suggest someone is in control and actually wants what’s happening. That’d be nice.

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      • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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        9•6 months ago

        Fact check me.

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          • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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            So you’re not simply claiming the events weren’t as described. You’re claiming they didn’t happen at all, and there was no transfer of power at all? Wow.

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              • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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                So then clarify. What did you mean? What is your point? What is your claim?

                Because it sounds like you’re just pushing NATO propaganda with no actual understanding of the events. You’re not claiming one narrative has credibility over another version of events. You’re just proclaiming blanket denial.

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                  • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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                    3•6 months ago

                    You are wrong.

                    https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/yjae8gc8hp2p293tmt4dlr4z2dpe2s?format=amp

    • @rational_lib@lemmy.world
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      And your evidence for the US installing this government is what exactly?

      Let me say this as a westerner - if someone all of a sudden tried to put me in a Putinist puppet state, shit would burn. To the ground.

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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        8•6 months ago

        Im assuming you aren’t American, then 👀

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